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DVD Regions and Running Time checking
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DVD Profiler Unlimited Registrantwoodg
Registered: March 21, 2007
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I'm planning on contributing some DVDs to the database but I have a couple of problems:

1. I need software that will change/over-ride the DVD region of my laptop DVD drive. My laptop is set to Region 1 but I want to contribute some Region 4 DVDs and I want to play the DVDs to check credits, etc. (I use Windows Vista).

2. What software (again, for Windows Vista) do you use to check the details of the DVD (such as running time, regions, etc).I mainly want to confirm running times as we all know they can be different to the time printed on the case. Or do you generally just use Windows Media Player?

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Thanks, Glenn.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorLewis_Prothero
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Registered: May 19, 2007
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Reg. Question 1: You find "region-free"-firmware updates for your DVD drive via Google. Just be aware that this invalids any guarantees of the manufacturer. But it's possibly not needed: You can change the region of your DVD-Player 4 times (automatically) the fith change then sets the region finally.

Reg. Question 2: I use "Nero Info Tool"
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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorBerak
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Registered: May 10, 2007
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1. I use DVD Region Free for playing different regions.

2. I use Power DVD8 and DVDInfo Pro for region, running time and other disc details. Make sure to disable DVD Region Free before you look for region coding, as leaving it on results in a "Region Free" result from DVDInfo Pro and Power DVD.

Happy profiling. 
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorNexus the Sixth
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I use AnyDVD (HD) for my computer players. It does what the name suggests. 

I also use VSO Inspector and DVD Shrink to check regions, audio, subtitles etc.

Nero ShowTime and PowerDVD for actually playing the discs and double check features.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorKatatonia
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1. I use DVDIdlePro, which plays any DVD from any region and doesn't use much memory. You also don't have to disable it to check a disc's regions as it won't change or alter how regions are read by other programs. There hasn't been an update for it in a few years, but it still works flawlessly even on Vista.

2. I use VSO Inspector, DVDInfoPro and IFOedit for checking a disc's region coding. I also use PowerDVD 7-9 and DVD Audio Extractor for running times and audio/subtitles/closed captions.
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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile Registrantpauls42
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Quoting goblinsdoitall:
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Reg. Question 1: You find "region-free"-firmware updates for your DVD drive via Google. Just be aware that this invalids any guarantees of the manufacturer. But it's possibly not needed: You can change the region of your DVD-Player 4 times (automatically) the fith change then sets the region finally.

Reg. Question 2: I use "Nero Info Tool"


Goblin, re question 1 - the OP was talking about software for his Pc's dvd drive.

And I would agree with Patrick that anyDVd is the way to go. a pure software solution that just works. And works nicely with their other products.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorArdos
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Reg. Question 1: You find "region-free"-firmware updates for your DVD drive via Google. Just be aware that this invalids any guarantees of the manufacturer. But it's possibly not needed: You can change the region of your DVD-Player 4 times (automatically) the fith change then sets the region finally.


Goblin, re question 1 - the OP was talking about software for his Pc's dvd drive.


Goblin was suggesting an alternative to software. For about 9 years or so, DVD drives have to be RPC-2 which is what he was talking about regarding the number of times you can change the region code. Patching the firmware removes that limit so that you can change it indefinitely. It's more risky though as it's possible to wreck the drive that way so software such as DVD Region Free or AnyDVD are generally advised unless you're prepared to take a risk.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorzwoti
Registered: April 14, 2007
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for regions/layers i use dvdinfopro.

to block regions changes i use anydvd.



and on a similar note, i remember an old discussion (by old i mean pre-invelos) where it was mentioned that using such software actually amended the "read" disc id and as such could give incorrect data for dvdprofiler.

am i remembering this correct?

as such, i have been only contributing uk disc id's as my laptop dvd drive is set to r2 (happily disabling/re-enabling anydvd as needed). if it turns out not to be the case then i can start on some r1 titles currently not in the database (specifically the triple bill of chained heat/red heat/jungle warriors)
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorNexus the Sixth
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I don't think the AnyDVD-DVD Profiler conflict exists anymore, I seem to remember there was an update to prevent this. At least I haven't noticed any conflicting disc IDs lately...
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantGrendell
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If you copy a DVD with AnyDVD and a 1:1 cloner (CloneCD, ImgBurn, Nero via "Copy DVD"), the result will have a different disc ID than the original.

However, if you put an original DVD in your drive and have AnyDVD running, AnyDVD will pass the original disc ID through its filter and report it correctly to your system.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorhallo-marvin
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How to determine BluRay regions?
I have DVDInfoPro (older free version) and PowerDVD 7 for DVDs, but nothing for Blu.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorKatatonia
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I don't think the AnyDVD-DVD Profiler conflict exists anymore, I seem to remember there was an update to prevent this. At least I haven't noticed any conflicting disc IDs lately...


I don't think it does with Disc IDs anymore, but AnyDVD still alters how the region coding of a disc will be read in many programs.
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My new trail for AnyDVD just ran out but I was noting that it didn't alter the disc ID's like the old version I used to have did.
If you're just going to do a few audits, just grab a trail version of something. AnyDVD will give you 21 days, apparently/hopefully per version.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorCyclograph
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Registered: March 13, 2007
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For my PC based analysis I use the elderly DVDDecrypter, which doesn't care if your DVDROM is RCP2, and reveals all region and stream data - though a bit esoteric & technical in presentation & use. 
I used my eyes for layer entry, the markings for determining such are usually very clear.  However, Profiler now does this item automatically when you add discID, so usually no longer required manually and I have only seen it make a mistake twice for this data.
For playback check I prefer VLC, which also can work around RCP2 restrictions, but works better (faster) with a RCP1 patched drive.

Will be stepping into Blu in a couple months, now gotta wrap my head & tools around that one! 

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a note for TV series & compilation discs - depending on how the program was authored, determining the total runtime can be kind a pain; time math. Sometimes all items are contained in a single movie object divided by chapters, others are separated into the individual episodes.  In the latter case, a time calculator tool, such as here, assists a great deal.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited Registrantwoodg
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Thank you to all for your suggestions. I have made my first submission. Now, I just have to wait and see if it passes. 
DVD Profiler Unlimited Registrantwoodg
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Yay. Submission accepted.      Now to contribute some more.
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