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| Registered: March 14, 2007 |  Posts: 2,337 |
| | Posted: | | | | Let's assume that we have TV-Series called:
Yep: Season 1 (UPC:1)
It has, let's say, two already accepted child profiles by DiscID (Disc 1= a and Disc 2 =b)
now we get a re-release for that same series and parent UPC doesn't change, it's still 1, but DiscIDs have changed and are now c and d.
Some one contributes c and d as a child profiles for UPC 1. They get accepted.
Now if I use "Check for Child Profiles" does the program offer me profiles a and b as a child profiles or c and d? |
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| Registered: May 19, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 6,730 |
| | Posted: | | | | Good question. According to the contribution rules and Ken's statements additional Disc-IDs are for database purposes only. But what happens if ...  Keeeenn!! | | | It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 13,201 |
| | Posted: | | | | You will get whichever profiles are attached to the parent which, in your example, would be 'a' and 'b'. The only way to get 'c' and 'd', would be to insert those into your CD drive and download them that way. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
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Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
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Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
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| Registered: June 12, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 2,665 |
| | Posted: | | | | It isn't simply having a child profiles with Disc IDs matching the Disc IDs in the parent...is it?
I thought it was the box set contents that drove the "Check for child profiles" functionality.
So 'a' and 'b' would have to be explicitly attached (voted on and approved) to the parent to get them as children. Theoretically someone could come along with 'c' and 'd' and replace the 'a' and 'b' connections and assuming they get approved everyone after that would get 'c' and 'd'.
Do i misunderstand? | | | | Bad movie? You're soaking in it! |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 2,337 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting tweeter: Quote:
It isn't simply having a child profiles with Disc IDs matching the Disc IDs in the parent...is it?
I thought it was the box set contents that drove the "Check for child profiles" functionality.
So 'a' and 'b' would have to be explicitly attached (voted on and approved) to the parent to get them as children. Theoretically someone could come along with 'c' and 'd' and replace the 'a' and 'b' connections and assuming they get approved everyone after that would get 'c' and 'd'.
Do i misunderstand? You got my point. The latest ones always "win" even if they are utter crap compared to present ones. You can't even vote "no" for such a contribution if the profiles are by the rules. So in princible you can by the rules replace full audit original childs with re-release childs with only name and locality. Nobody can vote no and there is no reason for screeners not to approve such contributions if DiscIDs match. |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 2,337 |
| | Posted: | | | | What we need is a rule that re-release DiscIDs cannot be contributed as childs if there are already Original Release DiscID childs. Similar as with the cover scans. |
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| Registered: June 12, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,665 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Kulju: Quote:
You got my point. The latest ones always "win" even if they are utter crap compared to present ones. You can't even vote "no" for such a contribution if the profiles are by the rules. Don't see why you couldn't vote No. Conceptually it would be like replacing an original with a re-release cover and that isn't allowed. Theoretically the new children could be appended to the box set content so all of 'a', 'b', 'c' and 'd' would be attached. I'm not advocating that, just thinking aloud. | | | | Bad movie? You're soaking in it! |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 2,337 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting tweeter: Quote:
Don't see why you couldn't vote No. Conceptually it would be like replacing an original with a re-release cover and that isn't allowed. Yes it is, but it is not forbidden by the rules, unfortunately. |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 2,337 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting tweeter: Quote:
Theoretically the new children could be appended to the box set content so all of 'a', 'b', 'c' and 'd' would be attached. I'm not advocating that, just thinking aloud. That would work. Then by using "Check for Child Profiles" function you would see all options and could choose the ones that match your DiscIDs. At the moment it doesn't work that way thought. |
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| Registered: June 12, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,665 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Kulju: Quote:
That would work. Then by using "Check for Child Profiles" function you would see all options and could choose the ones that match your DiscIDs. At the moment it doesn't work that way thought. You wouldn't get to choose but would have download them all for the parent then remove the ones you didn't want. | | | | Bad movie? You're soaking in it! |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 2,337 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting tweeter: Quote:
Quoting Kulju:
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That would work. Then by using "Check for Child Profiles" function you would see all options and could choose the ones that match your DiscIDs. At the moment it doesn't work that way thought.
You wouldn't get to choose but would have download them all for the parent then remove the ones you didn't want. Details, details  That's what I ment.. |
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| Registered: March 18, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,456 |
| | Posted: | | | | Been following this, trying to understand better how contributions work. Out of curiosity Kuju, I added one those box sets from your earlier post ( UK 5017188888752 ) to my collection, then did the check for child profiles, and it seemed to work OK. (I only got one set of discIDs and the profiles were complete)  Now I'm not sure if I understand the issue very well - but I'm trying ...  Maybe the problem had been fixed by then? It was about 12 hours ago. | | | Thanks for your support.
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