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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorMerrik
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Just a quick question, exactly how are band names meant to be entered?

An example such as Coldplay.

Does it fall under the stage name heading and therefore gets put into the first name field?

I don't think I'm up to researching every single band in the dvd's I'm looking at in my local right now, figuring out each and every single band member's name, and then searching through all those hundreds of names in the CLT to find common names between actual name and band name, but is that technically how it should go down?

I've seen numerous examples, even in my local, of both of the above mentioned methods (and the particular dvd I'm thinking of fixing at the moment actually enters all bands with a period for the first name and the entire band name in the last name field...).

However I end up doing it, I'll probably just keep it local for the time being, but in future cases where I might have to submit one, just wondering how I should go about doing it.

Thanks!
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Yes, I would definitely treat them the same as stage names and put the band name in the first name field only. If they won't completely fit in the first name field, it's safe to break them up in the other fields.
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I always put them in the first name field myself.
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If it's:
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Morgan Freeman
Coldplay
Luke Wilson


then it's Coldplay in the first name field and you are done.

If it's:
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Morgan Freeman
Coldplay (presumably looking like some sort of title)
_Gwyenth Paltrow's Husband
_Gwyenth Paltrow's Husband's Buddy #1
_Gwyenth Paltrow's Husband's Buddy #2
Luke Wilson


then you would put Coldplay in a divider and list the rest normally.

But band names shouldn't be expanded to list band members who aren't listed in the credits.
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agree with that^
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But band names shouldn't be expanded to list band members who aren't listed in the credits.


Fully agree!

And yes, band names go into the first name field.
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Perfect!

You've all been very helpful!

Thanks very much!
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But band names shouldn't be expanded to list band members who aren't listed in the credits.

If the band members are individually identifiable, it would certainly be valid to enter them individually, flagged uncredited.  With bands where members come and go this data could be important.
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But band names shouldn't be expanded to list band members who aren't listed in the credits.

If the band members are individually identifiable, it would certainly be valid to enter them individually, flagged uncredited.  With bands where members come and go this data could be important.

True enough. 

I was thinking of someone directly replacing the credited band name with individual band members (credited).  Haven't seen it done but i'm sure someone has done it.
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But band names shouldn't be expanded to list band members who aren't listed in the credits.

If the band members are individually identifiable, it would certainly be valid to enter them individually, flagged uncredited.  With bands where members come and go this data could be important.

True enough. 

I was thinking of someone directly replacing the credited band name with individual band members (credited).  Haven't seen it done but i'm sure someone has done it.

Understood.  (Just didn't want someone to think the other is verboten.    )
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But band names shouldn't be expanded to list band members who aren't listed in the credits.

If the band members are individually identifiable, it would certainly be valid to enter them individually, flagged uncredited.  With bands where members come and go this data could be important.


Good point, actually! With Invelos' current (restrictive) policy on uncredited cast, you'll need to mention a time stamp for their appearance in your contribution notes, but in cases like these this shouldn't be too difficult.
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I was thinking of someone directly replacing the credited band name with individual band members (credited).  Haven't seen it done but i'm sure someone has done it.


I've seen it done wrong in a few recent audits. It seems like what I saw was done by fans, who were trying to give credit where there was none.

For example, The Crow had a great original soundtrack, but not all tunes were new. Nine Inch Nails did a cover, of which their version was new, but the songwriting credits were for The Cure. Someone still tried putting Trent Reznor as a songwriter, but his name was nowhere in the credits. For a couple other songs one or 2 writers out of 4-5 were listed. I guess tried is the wrong word, as the wrong credits were there (most likely from the intervocative days, but there).

Then for Rage Aagainst the Machine, they were credited for writing as 'Rage Aaginst the Machine", but their were credits for Zach and the guitar player's names alone (no credited as or links to RATM), both of which were wrong.

Similar thing was going on with Judgment Night. Someone picked the artists they liked, credited them as songwriters, but the end credits weren't even close. With those they'd list one rapper, then leave the 4-6 other writers from the bands out. Even better, the rappers were only half right, the credits had their real names while the stage names were listed. I fixed those with credited as where I could, erased the wrong ones and added all the rest left out.
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But band names shouldn't be expanded to list band members who aren't listed in the credits.

If the band members are individually identifiable, it would certainly be valid to enter them individually, flagged uncredited.  With bands where members come and go this data could be important.


The thought of this at the moment gives me nightmares! 

The DVD's I was working on locally were the Live Aid and Live 8 dvd's. I ran the name varient tool and noticed UB40 had two different listings, and the incorrect one was for Live 8, so I thought "hmmm... a quick fix won't hurt..."    There are 40 bands listed on the cover alone (haven't cross-checked to see if any are missing from the actual dvd). I was good with fixing all the parsing issues, but no way am I going to submit myself to endless hours scouring the internet looking for specific band members that were part of the band for that specific time, and entering them. I'm pretty sure my head would explode! 

It's absolutely good information to know for the future though! Thanks!
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But band names shouldn't be expanded to list band members who aren't listed in the credits.

If the band members are individually identifiable, it would certainly be valid to enter them individually, flagged uncredited.  With bands where members come and go this data could be important.

True enough. 

I was thinking of someone directly replacing the credited band name with individual band members (credited).  Haven't seen it done but i'm sure someone has done it.

What I usually do if the bandmembers are indentifiable is:
e.g. "The Money Pit" credit is "White Lion":
Mike Tramp [White Lion]
Vito Bratta [White Lion]
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So it's possibly me who has done it.
It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?


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What I usually do if the bandmembers are indentifiable is:
e.g. "The Money Pit" credit is "White Lion":
Mike Tramp [White Lion]
Vito Bratta [White Lion]
.
So it's possibly me who has done it.

This is only allowed if the individual members are credited that way in other DVDs.  If they are always credited as 'White Lion', you can't create the common name.
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