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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 5,734 |
| | Posted: | | | | Good day, Sirs,
I've just watched a horror classic from 1958 with mind-blowing special effects, I was mesmerized.
For that there's one crew member credited, in the opening, as "Special Photographic Effects".
Verbatim against the rules. But he did what the rules cover contentswise with Visual/Digital/Special/SpecialVisual Effects.
Should I enter him?
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  | T!M | | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 8,722 |
| | Posted: | | | | I would, yes. That's what Visual/Digital/Special Effects were referred to around that time. IMHO, that's exactly the person we're after, which is substantiated by the fact that it's the only effects-related credit. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | It is at this time a violation, absolutely. Keep it local using the Other Role. that way you can maintain the data and it won't be Contributed. Perhaps this will be changed at some point, maybe soon, but not now.
Tim got it right, except that he is NOT following the Rules.
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Outta here
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| Registered: December 10, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 3,004 |
| | Posted: | | | | If this is the standard we are using, then non-English movies aren't allowed a crew at all. |
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| Registered: May 19, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 6,730 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Ace_of_Sevens: Quote:
If this is the standard we are using, then non-English movies aren't allowed a crew at all. Incorrect, that's what the passage "or direct translations" in the crew credit rules is for. | | | It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?
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| Registered: December 10, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,004 |
| | Posted: | | | | But in many languages, the job names are not direct translations. For instance, Frank Griebe's credit for Run, Lola, Run is "kamera." |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,201 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting T!M: Quote:
I would, yes. That's what Visual/Digital/Special Effects were referred to around that time. IMHO, that's exactly the person we're after, which is substantiated by the fact that it's the only effects-related credit. This is exactly why the rule needs to be reworded. Here we have a valid 'Special Effects' credit that, technically, is not allowed because of the word 'Photographic'. It just seems silly to me. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
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| Registered: May 19, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,730 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Ace_of_Sevens: Quote:
"kamera" Would be translated as "Cinematographer" EDIT: True, there's some vagueness in this "translation"-stuff, but it's better than nothing. For a better idea how to do it check here | | | It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?
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| Registered: June 21, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 2,621 |
| | Posted: | | | | IMHO, "Special Photographic Effects" on any movie pre-1980 directly translates to "Special Effects". We need some new wordings on a few things crew-related. |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 1,777 |
| | Posted: | | | | As I do most of my work pre '60, I've been entering these credits and submitting them. I'd say that the voters and screeners both accept them, but I honestly don't know how thoroughly I'm checked so it may not carry that much weight.
For me, the bottom line is that there is typically only one person credited for any kind of effects work on these old films. Regardless of how it's worded, this is the person I'm after. |
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