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How to add a DVD with an new UPC Number to the Online Database? |
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| Registered: September 22, 2008 |  Posts: 7 |
| | Posted: | | | | Maybe I'm dumb, but how do I upload a new profile with a new UPC number yet?
I have an DVD with the UPC Number 4-009750-287422. This DVD is an Re-Release of the DVD with the UPC Number 4-011846-013259. So I have Add the DVD with the new UPC Number and have Copy many Informations from the old Profile to the new one. I have also add some Informations from the IMDB (like cast, companys etc. and have Scan the Cover with the new UPC Number.
Now I want to Upload this profile for other users. But after the upload, I see nothing. So nobody can see the new DVD.
What do I wrong? |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 1,242 |
| | Posted: | | | | Try Reading the Contribution Rules for a start HEREThese will tell what you can and cannot submit. Steve |
| | Registered: September 22, 2008 | | Posts: 7 |
| | Posted: | | | | Thank you for you Answer but maybe my englisch is to bad. I don't anderstand what you mean.
I heve read the rule. And, my source was the DVD, an existing profile in the DVD Profler databese and I heve rechecked it with the IMDB (for me one of the best databses for movie Informations).
And, in the link you have posted, nowhere stand, that I can't submit an new profile.
There stand:
When creating a new profile for contribution, the preferred method is to create from the UPC number. The UPC (called EAN in some countries) is the number under the barcode on the DVD’s case. DVD Profiler uses the entire UPC/EAN, including the check digit, as highlighted below: ...
And this I have done. I have add the UPC with Title to the Database and have add Information and want to send this Informations to the online Database.
But after Sending I have an Page with one Comment Field and nothing else. So the Profile is available for the contribution check. |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 1,242 |
| | Posted: | | | | Well if you have read the Contribution Rules you will have seen that You CANNOT use IMDb as a source for your data due to Legal concerns.
IMDb will sue any other company hosting their data without a licence. Invelos do not want to be an extention of IMDb. On top of that, you should try viewing some of their credits against what is actually in the movie credits - they are quite often different.
Steve |
| | Registered: September 22, 2008 | | Posts: 7 |
| | Posted: | | | | But my Problem ist not, that I have use IMDB. That will be Problem Number two (that the people here don't accept the new profile).
My problem is, that the new profile will not be correct uploaded.
And, if you have read my posting correct, you will see that the main informations are come from the DVD Profiler Database and not from the IMDB. I have only use the IMDB for Cross Checking (sometimes cast and crew have an different name in the credits as in real life and this thing I can found out via IMDB). |
| | Registered: March 15, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 5,459 |
| | Posted: | | | | When you create a new profile you don't add it to the database by uploading it with the rest of your collection. You need to contribute it instead.
Select your new profile, then in the Online menu choose Contribute DVD Profile.
After confirming, this should open up a webpage where you add your contribution notes (saying where all your info came from) and click on Submit.
New profiles shouldn't take much more than a day or two to be either accepted or declined. You can check the status under My Profiler above. |
| | Registered: September 22, 2008 | | Posts: 7 |
| | Posted: | | | | Thank you for you help, but this I have done.
First time, I have download the old UPC Profile, have changed the UPC Number to the new one, have click the Menu options 'Contribute DVD Profile' (I have changed to the english language that I am sure, that I have use the right menu option), have add the Comment 'New EAN Number'. But I can't checked any changes (because there aren't shown any).
After one or two days, the comes an message:
Sources for one or more of the changes and/or additions were not submitted. Please include the sources for your changes in the contribution notes, especially for cast and crew additions.
So, I have thougth, the problem was that I have only changed the UPC Number. So I have add the profile completly new (with copying the information from the old profile). But it looks the same. I will be uploaded it once again. Maybe now it works, but it doesn't look so.
I will report here. Thank you. |
| | Registered: June 12, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 2,665 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Maliboy: Quote:
And, if you have read my posting correct, you will see that the main informations are come from the DVD Profiler Database and not from the IMDB. I have only use the IMDB for Cross Checking (sometimes cast and crew have an different name in the credits as in real life and this thing I can found out via IMDB). You keep mentioning IMDb and that you are checking the film credits against the IMDb database and this is what people are confused about. You borrowed the Cast & Crew from another DVD Profiler profile and that is fine. You want to verify the cast & crew playing your DVD and compare the screen credits against those you borrowed. If you find errors or omissions in the profile then they should be corrected to match the screen credits. The screen credits are the last word for cast & crew. Not the DVD packaging, not IMDb, not a persons real name. Other information like studios, running times, whatever should come from the DVD itself. The database consists of information taken from the disc and the packaging. Third party (internet) data can be used to support data but should not be used in place of data from the disc. | | | | Bad movie? You're soaking in it! |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Maliboy:
You can clone an existing profile, but if you do that without verifying that data against the ACTUAL credits in the film, themn many users will justifiably vote NO. There is data in the database that does not conform to the Rules and if you clone one of those Profiles, then all you are doing is magnifying an existing problem. ALWAYS verify a cloned profile against the ACTUAL data in your possession and includ that in your notes.
IMDb is not a reliable source of any kind, which why we don't use them in addition to the legal issue described. Additionally this is DVDProfiler, not IMDb, IMDb already EXISTS and does not need to be duplicated now does it. We do things the Profiler way.
Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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Outta here
Billy Video |
| | Registered: March 14, 2007 |  Posts: 2,366 |
| | | Registered: March 15, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,459 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Maliboy: Quote:
Thank you for you help, but this I have done.
First time, I have download the old UPC Profile, have changed the UPC Number to the new one, have click the Menu options 'Contribute DVD Profile' (I have changed to the english language that I am sure, that I have use the right menu option), have add the Comment 'New EAN Number'. But I can't checked any changes (because there aren't shown any).
After one or two days, the comes an message:
Sources for one or more of the changes and/or additions were not submitted. Please include the sources for your changes in the contribution notes, especially for cast and crew additions.
So, I have thougth, the problem was that I have only changed the UPC Number. So I have add the profile completly new (with copying the information from the old profile). But it looks the same. I will be uploaded it once again. Maybe now it works, but it doesn't look so.
I will report here. Thank you. It looks like the problem is then that your notes aren't clear enough. When you change the EAN of a profile you create a completely new profile with no link to the original, so the screeners have no idea where all your info came from. Unfortunately when new profiles are submitted you don't get to pick and choose which bits to submit, so you have to try and remember what is on the profile and make a comment as to where all the info came from. |
| | Registered: May 19, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 6,730 |
| | Posted: | | | | @ Maliboy: You can always try the German forum if you need help. | | | It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?
Registrant since 05/22/2003 |
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