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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorMerrik
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Just wanted to get a few opinions on this one.

Right now, I'm chatting with a fellow member over some contributions I made to a television box set and it's child profiles.

I updated and changed a ton of incorrect information for the profiles. One of the changes I made, was revising the rating system from Film, to Television. However, with that revision, I had to leave off the actual rating of R, as that's not an option for the Canadian Television rating system with DVDProfiler (the ratings available are NR, G, C, C8, PG, 14+, 18+ and Adult... some of which I'm completely unfamiliar with and have never actually seen...).

The member I'm chatting with (politely... it's not an arguement, just wanted to point that out!) is voting no because of the R rating being left out. They feel I should list the profiles under film to include the R rating. I feel the rating system should properly reflect that of the Television series, and unfortunately because of that, the R rating shouldn't be included.

Just seeking opinions on what everyone else would do.

Use the incorrect Rating System of Film and include the R rating
or
Use the correct Rating System of Television and exclude the R rating

(the rating details have been entered for all the specific profiles regardless of what system the rating falls under)

Thanks for any opinions!!
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Use the TV and no rating because it's Television first and foremost.  You don't have to include ratings at all if you don't want to, regardless of whether it's a film or a TV show/series.
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If I were setting up a new profile, I would do either.

But if I were contributing to an existing profile, I wouldn't use the Film/TV feature if it removed the rating. To me, fixing one problem while creating another is not preferred.

I would make a feature request to amend the Canadian ratings to include the R rating. Unless the ratings are changed, I would leave the profile with the R rating.

This is just my personal preference. The rules don't address how to use functionality that doesn't work right. 
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorLostmule
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I am imagining that if the rating on your movie is "R", not putting a rating at all would be problematic if you want to have something extremely graphic too 'public' ?

Me I would chose the rating that matches the packaging OR the warning displayed when you start the movie/TV episode regardless if they are incorrectly from 'Movie Rating' / 'TV Rating'.

Further, I will pointout that many TV series are using the Film Rating system to rate their episodes, why they are doing that? I do not know..

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I would like to point out that regardless if they are TV series or FILMS, as soon as they are on 'Home VIdeo Disc' only one standard is used, i.e.: Home video Rating system as seen in those 2 links provided

Rating - Canada
http://www.cmpda.ca/jsp/v-rating.jsp

and for each Provinces: (Quebec-Canada is quite interesting.. good thing that DVD Prof has it included!!)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_motion_picture_rating_system
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Quoting huskersports:
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Use the TV and no rating because it's Television first and foremost.  You don't have to include ratings at all if you don't want to, regardless of whether it's a film or a TV show/series.

I agree with this.  Listing them as 'film', just to save the rating, doesn't feel right.
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Quoting Unicus69:
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Quoting huskersports:
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Use the TV and no rating because it's Television first and foremost.  You don't have to include ratings at all if you don't want to, regardless of whether it's a film or a TV show/series.

I agree with this.  Listing them as 'film', just to save the rating, doesn't feel right.


Doing so makes it difficult to sort by rating (From the highest rating to the lowest).. especially if you wish to have a 'clean' printout for review by colleagues... I know that some of you will think "Heck, he can change the his personal database locally to reflect what ever rating he/she wants"... true but would be a good thing to have the database also reflect the correct rating 

Will sound strange but I do not really care for 'Flim Rating' or 'TV Rating': what I mean here, as long as I can have the correct Rating, I am ok with that.. pretty selfish statement here.. 

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I'm agreeing with Lostmule on this one. I think the rating information is more important than the type of rating it is, because it's not just data - it will have a knock-on effect with the parental control system - and that's an important issue for users with young children.
I say keep the R rating on the profile, even if it has to say film instead of TV.
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Quoting huskersports:
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Use the TV and no rating because it's Television first and foremost.  You don't have to include ratings at all if you don't want to, regardless of whether it's a film or a TV show/series.


the trouble with this idea is that you are throwing away data (the R rating) just to show that it's a TV show. And (without knowing what the TV show is) it's probably blindingly obvious that its a TV show.. but the rating??

And as North Said - we don't want to lose the rating if that will help parental control. Knowing it was a TV program does nothing to show the rating of the show.
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Quoting Merrik:
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However, with that revision, I had to leave off the actual rating of R, as that's not an option for the Canadian Television rating system with DVDProfiler (the ratings available are NR, G, C, C8, PG, 14+, 18+ and Adult... some of which I'm completely unfamiliar with and have never actually seen...).

So, the Canadian TV ratings should be changed, shouldn't they? Lostmule provided the proper link.
Withhold the contribution on the rating and submit the changes to the rating in the proper forum, which I think was Feature Request, but I'm not sure.

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I agree with Mithi... I would hold off on any change and request the correct rating be added to the program. And if I am not mistaken... you won't even have to wait for a program update... he can do it through a database update.
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I agree as well...seems the better approach.
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Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorLostmule
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Generally speaking, in Canada (English Provinces) they use the standard Canadian rating system as provided earlier.

The only major difference is the french part of Canada (Quebec) where they use a different standard - less detailed than the one found in the US and the English part of Canada.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_motion_picture_rating_system
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorMerrik
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On the opinions stated her (and the constant pestering from lostmule...  ), I'm going to resubmit the contribution with the film rating system to keep the R rating intact, and then get around to making a request in the features forum for an update to the Canadian rating system to include the proper ratings.

Thanks for all the opinions.

Muchly appreciated!
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