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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorDanae Cassandra
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I don't much care which way this goes - only that there is a single answer and therefore all my films by the same studio will have the same name listed.

The rules state:

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Omit company suffixes such as LLC, Ltd., Inc.


I was informed by someone quite a while ago when adding a media company to a film that this meant that I should change "Loew's Incorporated" to "Loew's" in the studios field.  So I did and it was approved.  I have since changed all profiles that I have come to in my collection to reflect this, contributing as I go. 

Recently, a user went back and - along with adding valuable crew credits - changed the studio name back.  This was also approved.  Their reasoning was:

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Seems a lot like ping-pong, Danae Cassandra, but Inc. is an abbreviation, Incorporated not. In this case the rule says: take it as credited on disc!


Anyway, I just want to know what the rest of you think the rules state, and do you think I should change & contribute the profiles in my collection to reflect a single name for the studio?  As I said at the beginning, I don't much care which way the studio is named, only that the name is the same for all of the films, and I'm happy to change those in my collection to reflect whichever way it should go.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributornorthbloke
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As far as I'm aware it's a suffix whether it's abbreviated or not. One has nothing to do with the other.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorArdos
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Personally I would say to enter it as just Loew's. The way I'm interpreting the wording is that whether or not Incorporated is the whole word is irrelevant, it's still a suffix.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorT!M
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In this case the rule says: take it as credited on disc!

Well, that certainly isn't true: the rules don't say that at all.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantGemini76
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As northbloke just said:
The rules don't say anything about abbreviations as far as I know, only suffixes. And if Inc. is a suffix, then incorporated is as well, as they're both the same word, with the same meaning.

Personally I don't think Inc. is a suffix, when it's in the company name. A name is a name.

Like Donald Duck and Co...This is Donald Duck and company, so without Co, this would only be Donald Duck, which would be something completely different. Imagine Donald all alone
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributornorthbloke
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You're quite right - there will be situations where the word will be part of the name and not a suffix.
The Ladd Company for example would look very odd listed as The Ladd.
In this particular case, I don't know if the name of the company is Loew's Incorporated or not. But if the contributor can show it is, then yes it should be included.

Edit: having had a quick look, as Charlie says below, I can find nothing to suggest it actually is part of the name, so should be classed as a suffix.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorCharlieM
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This rule only applies to the suffix as it applies to how the company is legally formed.  Not if it actually part of the name.

Donald Duck and Co.  would be the name itself Although, if it said Donald Duck and Co. LLC, then you would drop the LLC. 

So in the example, Incorporated is referring to the formation of the company, therefor it should be dropped.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributormdnitoil
Registered: March 14, 2007
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Aesthetically I prefer Lowes Incorporated because it's what I've seen onscreen for my entire viewing life.  However, the rules seem to make it pretty clear to drop the Incorporated, which is what I've been doing locally.  Doesn't matter to me, but I'd really like to get it straight once and for all.
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