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| Registered: March 24, 2009 | | Posts: 7 |
| | Posted: | | | | A little confused on what the voting is for, I understand the for or against but what happens afterwards on the contribution, is it about how many votes you get before it is accepted, does one negative mean it wont be accepted, or does Invelos have the final say and the voting is just a general concensus from the public. |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 485 |
| | Posted: | | | | Welcome to the forums!
Invelos does have the final say.
That said, the voting need not be "just" a general consensus. Opinions can differ whether a contribution is approriate or not. There are countless threads on the forums that illustrate that. As a result, votes may be split. Invelos will make a decision based on the arguments given in the votes.
On the other hand, a set on yes-votes only is likely to ensure an approved contribution, similarly a full set of no-votes the opposite.
Realise that Invelos cannot have all the DVD's in the world, so it needs a bit of support from all of us to determine the worthiness of a contribution. | | | Eric
If it is important, say it. Otherwise, let silence speak. | | | | Last edited: by eommen |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 17,330 |
| | Posted: | | | | The voting is to help the screeners to determine if the info is correct per the Contribution Rules as there is no way the screeners can have every title in question. That is why it says in the rules for voting that you should only vote per the rules (There will be times that you can't... rules do not cover every situation). It depends on what happens after you vote. Gerri has said the votes do matter... but they are not the only consideration. Such as if what is wrong is only a minor thing they may still let it go through if it is a part of a large update. I have seen times when a single no vote caused a contribution to be declined. And I have seen times when there isn't any no votes and the contribution gets declined. It really all depends on what is wrong with the contribution... if anything per the Contribution Rules. So even though Invelos has the final say... the voting is to just let them know either yes or no... that this contribution follows their rules. | | | | Pete |
| | Registered: March 29, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 4,479 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting royaltiger: Quote:
A little confused on what the voting is for... Voting on contribution is mainly a game for some users that love to play teachers and climb to the sky each time they can give no votes. The same users work hardly to keep rules inept, so that normal users contribute "bad" data (Friends, by example), instead of "good" data, "F.R.I.E.N.D.S", to take the same example, just to be able to keep on giving no votes. Funny to see some of those users voting more than 10 times more often than contributing. Anyway, as Eommen said, Invelos has the last word...  | | | | Images from movies |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 1,946 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting surfeur51: Quote:
Funny to see some of those users voting more than 10 times more often than contributing.
If I have to contribute as much as I vote, there's no more time left for work, or more important, watch DVD's  I always try to vote on updates. If somebody is willing to do the work to update, he/she at least deserves a vote. Hence, I have probably ten times as much votes as contributions.  | | | View my collection at http://www.chriskepolis.be/home/dvd.htm
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| | Registered: March 29, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 4,479 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting cvermeylen: Quote:
If somebody is willing to do the work to update, he/she at least deserves a vote. Agree with that, though I consider most updates as waste of time. What is important is to contribute new profiles, and to do that the most completely possible. I wrote "some users". I never saw you working to keep rules inept. You were not "in the line of fire"  | | | | Images from movies |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting cvermeylen: Quote:
Quoting surfeur51:
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Funny to see some of those users voting more than 10 times more often than contributing.
If I have to contribute as much as I vote, there's no more time left for work, or more important, watch DVD's
I always try to vote on updates. If somebody is willing to do the work to update, he/she at least deserves a vote. Hence, I have probably ten times as much votes as contributions. I vote a lot on image contributions, not so much on others. In my job, I have spent the better part of 3 to 4 decades preparing material for print, including scanning photos, slides, objects... so the act of scanning is just more work for me. I have submitted many many profiles, mostly before the switch to Invelos -- all my old scans are now "submitted" by someone else. But I have to agree that if someone submits a scan, I ought to give the scan my professional eye & cast an informed vote. | | | If it wasn't for bad taste, I wouldn't have no taste at all.
Cliff |
| | Registered: December 13, 2008 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 334 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting surfeur51: Quote:
Voting on contribution is mainly a game for some users that love to play teachers and climb to the sky each time they can give no votes. The same users work hardly to keep rules inept, so that normal users contribute "bad" data (Friends, by example), instead of "good" data, "F.R.I.E.N.D.S", to take the same example, just to be able to keep on giving no votes. Funny to see some of those users voting more than 10 times more often than contributing.
Anyway, as Eommen said, Invelos has the last word... IMHO totally uncalled for negative post. |
| | Registered: May 18, 2007 |  Posts: 232 |
| | Posted: | | | | But as the "no" votes requires a comment, I think it's wise to add a comment even on "yes" votes. The reason is that if you have 2 "yes" votes, and 1 "no" vote, and only the "no" vote has comments, the screeners won't know if the "yes" voters have overlooked what the "no" voter is commenting on, so this would easily get declined. |
| | Registered: March 15, 2007 |  Posts: 374 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting SCG63: Quote:
Quoting surfeur51:
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Voting on contribution is mainly a game for some users that love to play teachers and climb to the sky each time they can give no votes. The same users work hardly to keep rules inept, so that normal users contribute "bad" data (Friends, by example), instead of "good" data, "F.R.I.E.N.D.S", to take the same example, just to be able to keep on giving no votes. Funny to see some of those users voting more than 10 times more often than contributing.
Anyway, as Eommen said, Invelos has the last word...
IMHO totally uncalled for negative post. I am negatively surprised by that as well Yves... |
| | Registered: March 19, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,018 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting royaltiger: Quote:
A little confused on what the voting is for, I understand the for or against but what happens afterwards on the contribution, is it about how many votes you get before it is accepted, does one negative mean it wont be accepted, or does Invelos have the final say and the voting is just a general concensus from the public. Something that has not been mentioned yet in this thread: on many occasions a No vote (and especially the reasons provided for this vote) can be used by the original contributor to make a correction in the contribution, after which the contribution can be resubmitted. We're all human, so we all make mistakes, and thanks to the voting system we can sometimes correct them before they make it into the database. | | | | Last edited: by dee1959jay |
| | Registered: March 24, 2009 | | Posts: 7 |
| | Posted: | | | | Thanks for the explanations much clearer now, so one other thing then will the profile status be updated at some point to say whether contribution has been accepted, and if your contribution is gaining more no votes do you accept defeat and withdraw it or is that done naturally. |
| | Registered: March 29, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 4,479 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting sugarjoe: Quote:
I am negatively surprised by that as well Yves... I understand your point of view, and apologize for that. Anyway, I still consider the voting system, and all those no votes which are used on non explicit rules (like the one I gave in example), are the major factor of the bad mood that we find here, much more than political threads... How many inflamed thread began by "I got a no vote on my contribution of..."?? And I also think the reason of that is the behavior of a few users, less than half a dozen, but who represent probably more than the half of all the posts here. We may be hypocrite and say that everything is perfect, or say what we think to try to make things improve... I prefer this last solution than run after reputation stars. | | | | Images from movies | | | | Last edited: by surfeur51 |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,330 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting royaltiger: Quote:
Thanks for the explanations much clearer now, so one other thing then will the profile status be updated at some point to say whether contribution has been accepted, and if your contribution is gaining more no votes do you accept defeat and withdraw it or is that done naturally. What are the reason for the no votes? If they are legitimate reasons per the Rules You should withdraw and fix anyway (IMO). If you click on the votes it will show you the reason for no votes. It will show a change once it is processed... It will either go from... Received --> Approved --> Released or it will go from... Received --> Declined | | | | Pete |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,201 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting royaltiger: Quote:
Thanks for the explanations much clearer now, so one other thing then will the profile status be updated at some point to say whether contribution has been accepted, and if your contribution is gaining more no votes do you accept defeat and withdraw it or is that done naturally. The process usually takes 2 - 3 days. From what I have read, Ken & Gerri (the owners of the software) are in the middle of a move, so they are taking a little longer. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 906 |
| | Posted: | | | | To see the reason given for the no vote, just click on the vote count.
I guess the reason (or one of your reasons) for your thread is your contributions for the Final Destination 1. The reason for the no votes on that profile is that the covers you have scanned are not the same as the ones for the original release. Sadly(?), one profile can't hold more than one set of cover images meaning that if a profile is re-released with a different cover scan, both scans can't be in the database. To avoid ping-ponging contributions it was decided that the cover from the original release is the one that should be stored in the DB | | | 
The colour of her eyes, were the colour of insanity | | | | Last edited: by reybr |
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