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"Special Apperence By", how to credit
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorbigdaddyhorse
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I'm doing a profile for Friday the 13th Part 3-3D: Deluxe Edition (097361405940) and found another question without an answer in the rules. There is a "special apperence by" credit to 4 actors from Friday Part 2 (the first 5 minutes or so of 3 is the end of 2), yet they are not given there role names, and it's seperate from the full cast credits. It's also before the full cast with roles, but after full cast without {the full cast is in the open credits, and first of end as "starring" Full with roles is end of end}.

I have the older boxset without the 3d version, and that has them listed at the end of the cast with role name followed by "(archive footage)". Is that the right way to credit them, or do they not even get credit since they're in a different spot?
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It doesn't matter where they are credited, only that they are.  They should not, however, have 'archive footage' appended to the role.
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Is that the right way to credit them, or do they not even get credit since they're in a different spot?


Everything is the right way, you may do what you want, as explained be new Unicus' Special Rules :

Quoting Unicus69:
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I have freely admitted, both here and at IVS, that I ignore the restrictions caused by the crew rules.  I ignore them because they prevent valid, Profiler credits, from being entered.


Since we can do what we want on a rule, no reason not to do the same thing everywhere we find that better.

Unicus decided alone that rules were just guides, and it will make things much more easy for everybody. 
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It doesn't matter where they are credited, only that they are.  They should not, however, have 'archive footage' appended to the role.


Do you think they should have anything attached? I can see both sides of this already, and almost lean towards some form of old footage indicator, as they didn't really come back to be in the movie, just clips of them were used.
How about a divider since they aren't in with the rest of the cast? Then the divider could just say "special apperence by" and anyone who has the films will know it's the clips. That kinda solves everything I think.

Now that whole box set needs an audit, cuz it looked like most of the flicks had cast archives in em.
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Is that the right way to credit them, or do they not even get credit since they're in a different spot?


Everything is the right way, you may do what you want, as explained be new Unicus' Special Rules :

Quoting Unicus69:
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I have freely admitted, both here and at IVS, that I ignore the restrictions caused by the crew rules.  I ignore them because they prevent valid, Profiler credits, from being entered.


Since we can do what we want on a rule, no reason not to do the same thing everywhere we find that better.

Unicus decided alone that rules were just guides, and it will make things much more easy for everybody. 

You would love that, surfeur. But they are NOT guides, they are Rules. We had gides and they were a disaster.

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You would love that, surfeur. But they are NOT guides, they are Rules.

That is just your opinion. Unicus decided in fact they became guides.

There is nevertheless a big  difference between him and me:
I disagree with rules but apply them each time I contribute.
He claims he agrees with rules and violates them each time he thinks he is right to do it...
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How about a divider since they aren't in with the rest of the cast? Then the divider could just say "special apperence by" and anyone who has the films will know it's the clips. That kinda solves everything I think.
From what you describe (and what I understand of it), a divider would work well in this case. Could you post a screenshot for people?
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There is a "special apperence by" credit to 4 actors from Friday Part 2 (the first 5 minutes or so of 3 is the end of 2), yet they are not given there role names, and it's seperate from the full cast credits. It's also before the full cast with roles, but after full cast without {the full cast is in the open credits, and first of end as "starring" Full with roles is end of end}.



I assume, that the full cast with role names covers everyone who is also listed in the full cast without roles. In that case, you would list the "Special Appearace by" credits before the others. If you have the credits of Part 2 available, I would take the role names from there.


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Here's a screenshot. To put it in reference, this is at 1:32:38, but just after the "starring" credits without roles.

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y168/bigdaddyhorse/PDVD_000-4.jpg

The full cast with roles is at 1:34:20 or so, after all the end crew credits. The only thing after them is the small print legal stuff. To make stuff better, the 4th name is a "Jason Stunt Double". I haven't looked at the credits for part 2 yet to be sure he is in with the cast there, but would that even matter since he is here?
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Do you think they should have anything attached? I can see both sides of this already, and almost lean towards some form of old footage indicator, as they didn't really come back to be in the movie, just clips of them were used.
How about a divider since they aren't in with the rest of the cast? Then the divider could just say "special apperence by" and anyone who has the films will know it's the clips. That kinda solves everything I think.

If they are listed under the heading 'Special Appearance by", then I would say a divider is probably the right way to go.  In addition, I would use the credits with roles attached rather than the ones without.
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Good luck fitting that all into a divider! 

That screenshot is pretty much as I visualised, and I think you've come up against a nutter if you get No votes for puttnig one in.
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I would use the role names from the older boxset you have or the role names from Part II.
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