The Ocean's Blu-ray box set was released on November 13, 2007. Ocean's Eleven and Twelve were released separately on April 29, 2008. The interesting thing is that individual UPCs were already assigned when the box set was released, even though these titles were not yet available separately. (The cover art for each movie in the box set has a UPC.) So should I consider the release date as the date when the box set was released, or when the separate UPC was released in its own right?

The contribution rules are not clear on this (and I wouldn't expect them to be since this is a highly unusual case). The only rule that might help deduce a policy would be: "Do not change the DVD Release Date if a release goes out of print and then is subsequently re-released using the same UPC." The corollary of this, as I interpret it, is that the determining factor is the UPC under which the title is actually released. Since Ocean's Eleven and Twelve were originally released under a different UPC (that of the box set) when they were first available, the individual issues actually represent new released UPCs (even if the discs are the same), and thus should reflect the individual-release dates (4/29/2008), not the box-set date (11/13/2007).

In addition: Ocean's Eleven right now has the SRP upon its release as an individual UPC ($28.99), but Ocean's Twelve has a zero SRP, following box-set practice. They should both be either $28.99 or $0.00, and that depends on which release date should be considered correct.

Quoting To'yL:

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The Ocean's Blu-ray box set was released on November 13, 2007. Ocean's Eleven and Twelve were released separately on April 29, 2008. The interesting thing is that individual UPCs were already assigned when the box set was released, even though these titles were not yet available separately. (The cover art for each movie in the box set has a UPC.) So should I consider the release date as the date when the box set was released, or when the separate UPC was released in its own right?

The contribution rules are not clear on this (and I wouldn't expect them to be since this is a highly unusual case). The only rule that might help deduce a policy would be: "Do not change the DVD Release Date if a release goes out of print and then is subsequently re-released using the same UPC." The corollary of this, as I interpret it, is that the determining factor is the UPC under which the title is actually released. Since Ocean's Eleven and Twelve were originally released under a different UPC (that of the box set) when they were first available, the individual issues actually represent new released UPCs (even if the discs are the same), and thus should reflect the individual-release dates (4/29/2008), not the box-set date (11/13/2007).

In addition: Ocean's Eleven right now has the SRP upon its release as an individual UPC ($28.99), but Ocean's Twelve has a zero SRP, following box-set practice. They should both be either $28.99 or $0.00, and that depends on which release date should be considered correct.

The Ocaen's trilogy on BR was released as a box and since each movie had it's own UPC you had to use those for the cihildprofiles (according to the rules and at that point no BR Disc-id's could be read). Therefor i think the release date of the box should be the release date of the childprofiles and thus the release date of the seperate movies even though they were not seperatly available until later. This may be unfortunate and incorrect for those who purchased the seperate released discs but they were released before and thus should have the first release date. Of course locally you could change the date and SRP if you wish.

Paul

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LOL, you are being rather unclear and seem to be confusing some things. While I have no doubt that Ocean's Boxset was released. Ocean's Eleven was originally released 5/7/2002, Twelve 4/12/2005 and Thirteen 11/13/2007, so I am not terribly certain what you are referring to about Eleven and Twelve being released later. As for the SRP , consistency has nothing to do with it, jusr because one mightb have a $28.99 SRP does not mean any other would, , as you had better be able to provide documentation for changing, not just because you want to match them.

My apologies. I barely mentioned in passing that I was referring to the Blu-ray releases. UPCs: 085391161042 (11) and 085391161059 (12). As for SRP, I should've said that:

If we use the single-title release dates, the SRPs should be as quoted from a retail site such as Amazon. Both SRPs happen to be $28.99.

If we use the box-set release date, the SRPs should both be $0.00.

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the SRPs should be as quoted from a retail site such as Amazon.

I think it's a good idea to check several retailers for SRP, as these might be incorrect. This way you'll get a better idea which ones are most correct.

I usually check as many retalers as possible, and find most of them list the same SRP, but a few have a different SRP. I then use the most commen one.

I agree, paul.

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