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Digital Copies and their Authorization Codes |
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| Registered: March 29, 2007 | | Posts: 158 |
| | Posted: | | | | Does anyone know what the deal is with all these digital copies which are adding to our joy on various special editions the last couple months? Why is a DVD enthusiast going to be all that anxious to play an inferior copy of a movie on something that won't play regular video DVDs, such as any PC with a DVD drive, among other possibilities? Heck, I've even got a boom box that plays video DVDs on a tiny little screen.
And what about those authorization codes? What purpose do they serve? If the DVD producers want to give us a digital copy, why does it have to be with all these strings of characters? If I make a hundred copies of my digital copy, and distribute them to my pals, or the U.S. Senate, with the authorization code for each, will my hundred friends be able to play it?
(I have to admit that I am storing all these damned codes in the notes section of DVD Profiler. Those little slips of paper are going to get lost.) |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 4,596 |
| | Posted: | | | | Someone correct me if I'm wrong but it's my understanding that the authorization code is logged by the issuing authority when "redeemed". If another person attempts to reuse that authorization code, the digital copy will not download or unlock. | | | | My WebGenDVD online Collection |
| | Registered: March 14, 2007 |  Posts: 1,328 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting 8ballMax: Quote:
Someone correct me if I'm wrong but it's my understanding that the authorization code is logged by the issuing authority when "redeemed". If another person attempts to reuse that authorization code, the digital copy will not download or unlock. Not only that, on many of these discs, the Digital copy unlock codes will expire after a year or Digital copy unlock server will only exist for a limited time. This is a complete waste of disc and resources. I will not put any DRM music or video on my PC or portable player. | | | | My Home Theater |
| | Registered: March 29, 2007 | | Posts: 158 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting xradman: Quote:
Quoting 8ballMax:
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Someone correct me if I'm wrong but it's my understanding that the authorization code is logged by the issuing authority when "redeemed". If another person attempts to reuse that authorization code, the digital copy will not download or unlock.
Not only that, on many of these discs, the Digital copy unlock codes will expire after a year or Digital copy unlock server will only exist for a limited time. This is a complete waste of disc and resources. I will not put any DRM music or video on my PC or portable player. I'm not into DRM. Does this mean that I need the permission of some entity in Cyberlimbo every time I try to play the digital copy? Or, even if the digital copy is on a separate disc, do I have to descramble and rewrite it to some other medium before I can actually play it? Is the permission needed only at the time I write the unscrambled copy to, for example, my hard drive (which is always overloaded anyway), so I won't then be allowed to copy it to any other device? Why would I want to bother with all this crap? I've got a real genuine video DVD. What exactly are the devices which won't play this but will play this digital copy? |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 4,596 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting karlpov: Quote:
Quoting xradman:
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Quoting 8ballMax:
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Someone correct me if I'm wrong but it's my understanding that the authorization code is logged by the issuing authority when "redeemed". If another person attempts to reuse that authorization code, the digital copy will not download or unlock.
Not only that, on many of these discs, the Digital copy unlock codes will expire after a year or Digital copy unlock server will only exist for a limited time. This is a complete waste of disc and resources. I will not put any DRM music or video on my PC or portable player.
I'm not into DRM. Does this mean that I need the permission of some entity in Cyberlimbo every time I try to play the digital copy? Or, even if the digital copy is on a separate disc, do I have to descramble and rewrite it to some other medium before I can actually play it? Is the permission needed only at the time I write the unscrambled copy to, for example, my hard drive (which is always overloaded anyway), so I won't then be allowed to copy it to any other device?
Why would I want to bother with all this crap? I've got a real genuine video DVD. What exactly are the devices which won't play this but will play this digital copy? When you use your authorization code you will usually be given a choice as to what format you would like the video to be saved as. Usually Windows Media or iTunes (iPod). Once it's downloaded, either from disc or online, it's saved on your PC and you no longer need to "request" authorization to view it. | | | | My WebGenDVD online Collection |
| | Registered: March 29, 2007 | | Posts: 158 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting 8ballMax: Quote:
When you use your authorization code you will usually be given a choice as to what format you would like the video to be saved as. Usually Windows Media or iTunes (iPod). Once it's downloaded, either from disc or online, it's saved on your PC and you no longer need to "request" authorization to view it. OK, can you then explain to me why I'd want to use Windows Media for this digital copy instead of putting my regular video DVD into the DVD drive and watching it with any of several programs which run regular video DVDs? (That's if I can't do so from bare Windows, which I suppose depends on the version.) When I decide to get a new PC and don't choose to migrate that hard drive with the digital copy there, will I be able to recopy the copy to the new machine? Similarly, can I copy to more than one iPod device? I guess this is mostly useful to iPod freaks, but of all the ways to watch a movie, isn't this one of the dumbest when you've got a real, genuine DVD which you can see on any number of bigger screens without any bloody authorization code? Am I just too old and crotchety? |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 8,723 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting karlpov: Quote:
Am I just too old and crotchety? Well, I don't know about that  but at least you're not alone. For the life of me, I can't see the attraction either. |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 4,596 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting karlpov: Quote:
Quoting 8ballMax:
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When you use your authorization code you will usually be given a choice as to what format you would like the video to be saved as. Usually Windows Media or iTunes (iPod). Once it's downloaded, either from disc or online, it's saved on your PC and you no longer need to "request" authorization to view it.
OK, can you then explain to me why I'd want to use Windows Media for this digital copy instead of putting my regular video DVD into the DVD drive and watching it with any of several programs which run regular video DVDs? (That's if I can't do so from bare Windows, which I suppose depends on the version.)
When I decide to get a new PC and don't choose to migrate that hard drive with the digital copy there, will I be able to recopy the copy to the new machine? Similarly, can I copy to more than one iPod device? I guess this is mostly useful to iPod freaks, but of all the ways to watch a movie, isn't this one of the dumbest when you've got a real, genuine DVD which you can see on any number of bigger screens without any bloody authorization code?
Am I just too old and crotchety? I'd never waste my time watching it on my PC, but I have watched them on my Ipod in the waiting room at my Doctor's office  . | | | | My WebGenDVD online Collection |
| | Registered: March 14, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 950 |
| | Posted: | | | | Yup, 8ballMax has it right...it's more so that you can take it with you without the bulky laptop/portable DVD player than anything. My bro travels for his job and he likes them because he can watch movies on his blackberry (I think, he has a new "toy" now that he uses too) without having to pull out his laptop on the plane.
For me, it's not that they offer it, but that the companies are starting to charge more for them! Give me the choice to have the extras, but not the digital copy that they want to charge extra on! (Wall-E with the 3 disc, for example. Why not a 2-disc for an inbetween price between the bare bones version and the digital copy version?) | | | | Lori |
| | Registered: March 18, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,550 |
| | Posted: | | | | ^ I believe they did come out with a 2-disc version for Wall-E... All the features, just no digital copy. |
| | Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 950 |
| | Posted: | | | | Hmm, haven't seen it around here yet plus, I already bought the 1-disc so won't double dip. But I know there are others out there...mainly Disney is doing the extra charging, though. | | | | Lori |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 2,694 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting karlpov: Quote:
Quoting 8ballMax:
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When you use your authorization code you will usually be given a choice as to what format you would like the video to be saved as. Usually Windows Media or iTunes (iPod). Once it's downloaded, either from disc or online, it's saved on your PC and you no longer need to "request" authorization to view it.
OK, can you then explain to me why I'd want to use Windows Media for this digital copy instead of putting my regular video DVD into the DVD drive and watching it with any of several programs which run regular video DVDs? (That's if I can't do so from bare Windows, which I suppose depends on the version.)
When I decide to get a new PC and don't choose to migrate that hard drive with the digital copy there, will I be able to recopy the copy to the new machine? Similarly, can I copy to more than one iPod device? I guess this is mostly useful to iPod freaks, but of all the ways to watch a movie, isn't this one of the dumbest when you've got a real, genuine DVD which you can see on any number of bigger screens without any bloody authorization code?
Am I just too old and crotchety? This is all an attempt by the various media purveyors to switch everybody over to streaming video via the internet. They've been trying various methods for several years to get people to buy into the whole scheme. Personally, I prefer to own the disc so I can watch it whenever I choose at no additional cost. They hate guys like me!  | | | John
"Extremism in the defense of Liberty is no vice!" Senator Barry Goldwater, 1964
Make America Great Again! |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 1,380 |
| | Posted: | | | | They pretty much butchered the X-Files movies covers by adding "instructions" on how to add it to your computer, in the front cover. Also the word "digital copy" makes me want to bang my head to the wall, the DVD IS a digital copy, i dont need the same thing twice. There are gazillion programs that can change the format, if the regular video file format on the DVD isnt supported by your choice of hardware. | | | | Last edited: by whispering |
| | Registered: March 15, 2007 |  Posts: 178 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMovieman: Quote:
^ I believe they did come out with a 2-disc version for Wall-E... All the features, just no digital copy. i got the 2-disc and 3-disc versions  |
| | Registered: March 29, 2007 | | Posts: 158 |
| | Posted: | | | | Thank you, whispering, for pointing out that what you get on a video DVD is already a digital copy of a video product. They should be calling this Digital Copy for Itsy-Bitsy Screens, since iPods and Blackberries seem to be the only devices which can't handle the regular video DVD.
I notice that a number of my "Digital Copies" are not on separate discs but are included on the bonus materials disc. Don't know whether this raises the price. At best, it takes up room which could have been used for... oh, more stupid trailers. |
| | Registered: March 17, 2007 | | Posts: 853 |
| | Posted: | | | | Forgive me, but since no one else said it I will. This is a GIMMICK. This is how the studios are trying to get the consumer to spend the extra 6 to 10 dollars. Sometimes they will even throw in an extra feature, but is this one that is listed on the box. It is just like having 30 releases of a movie with different covers or a collectors something. Collectors will have to have them all. I am sure that we will start seeing re-releases with digital copies if they haven't already arrived. |
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