Again, pardon that I'm long-winded.    Both of these questions have to do primarily with anime profiles for my collection, but I could see the question possibly come up other for foreign films ...

I have been trying to clean up the profiles of the various anime in my collection so that they all look neat and uniform.  My questions aren't about what I'm going to do locally - but about whether or not my changes are something that I should contribute. 

Both of these have to do with profiles listing both a Japanese cast and an English cast.  There is no issue for me with those DVDs I have that are purely subtitled, or purely dubbed in English.  Only those that have both.

1.  I have several anime that have old profiles that have the cast done in such a way as to list the language in parenthesis in the role section.  These profiles have no dividers.  I am re-doing all of these so that the two casts are separated by dividers for "Japanese cast" and "English cast" and eliminating the (Language) from the role section.  I think this looks better and I'm going to eventually re-do all of my anime profiles this way.  So, for example ...

Previously it would look like this:
Koichi Yamadera : Spike (Japanese) (voice)
Steven Jay Blum : Spike (English) (voice)

Now it looks like this:
Japanese cast
Koichi Yamadera : Spike (voice)
English cast
Steven Jay Blum : Spike (voice)

Is this simply a case of personal preference, or is this something I should submit?  In cases where the casts are not differentiated/separated at all I am submitting my changes (since there is no separation between the two casts there), but in these cases where they are differentiated by the (Language) style, I am uncertain if the contribution has added value to the database or is simply a stylistic difference.

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2.  Some of my anime profiles list the Japanese cast first, some list the English cast first.  I am eventually going to re-do all of these so that the Japanese cast is always listed first.  Is there any part of the rules covering in which order to list two different casts in?  Does this fall under the part where it says to 'list the cast in the order given in the credits?' - therefore listing whichever cast is listed first?  Does it not fall under that portion?  Does anyone even care which cast is listed first besides me? 

And, ultimately, if this is not covered by the rules, if the only change I make to a profile is moving the Japanese cast so that it's listed first, should I bother with submitting it or that something that is simply my local preference and is of no added value to the database?

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1) I always use dividers to separate Japanese/English cast.  The "(Japanese)" or "(English)" tag shouldn't be on the Role unless it is that way in the credits.

2) What order are the credits listed in the film? If Japanese cast first, list them first. If English first with Japanese in a tacked on after the "real" credits (or hidden in the subtitles) then English first, then Japanese.

If i find English/Japanese credits and only one is credited on the disc i separate them, mark the ones i can't find (happened a couple times with original Japanese credits) on disc Uncredited.  I state in the Notes why i did this, which is because while i know they aren't credited i don't have the language skills to prove/disprove their correctness.

Detailed contribution notes are always recommended.

Anime Credits are in most cases western style. The only exception I knew is Noein.

Quoting Danae Cassandra:

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Thanks everybody!  I'll be sure to upload the corrections for #1, and make a note of which ones not to upload with #2 (my personal preference of having the Japanese cast listed first if that's not the way it is with the actual disc.  I'll just keep changes local in those cases.).

Quoting madacid:

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btw. isn't he credited as "Yamadera Koichi" ?

If he (or other Japanese cast) is credited that way, should we place his family name (Yamadera) in the first name slot for Invelos, or should we place it under the last name slot where Western family names go? 

It may not be much of an issue, though, even if I'd much prefer to list seiyuu in proper Japanese style, because as Morglum said most anime credits are done in Western style.

NO, the Rules are very explicit.

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Thare have been many, MANY, discussions concerning this topic.  As of yet, there is no answer to your question.  There is a pinned thread in this forum, the bottom one I believe, that will give you an idea as to how this issue is usually dealt with.

There's also this thread, which covers a similar situation.
No answer unfortunately.