Hi...
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No... you couldn't do that as we do not do any kind of standardizing of any kind in the cast/crew.. we go by as they are credited in the end credits.

There is a common name function in the program... but the way you determine the common name is the most commonly credited form from the end credits using the credit look-up tool on this site.

One thing I would strongly suggest is going over the RULES before doing any contributions. and also when you do contributions you need to be sure to source all your changes/additions in the contribution notes.

As long as you follow the rules as written and add good contribution notes with your sources you should have very little trouble getting contributions accepted.

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No... you couldn't do that as we do not do any kind of standardizing of any kind in the cast/crew.. we go by as they are credited in the end credits.

There is an exception to this.  If the credits are in all caps, you can use the standard capitalization rules from that actor/director's country.

Using your example, if he is credited 'THEO ANGELOPOULOS', you can enter him 'Théo Angelopoulos'...as long as you can document that it is the proper lower case version of his name.

If, however, he is credited as you wrote it...'Theo Angelopoulos'...then that is how he has to be entered.

I have just checked the credits of the French DVD release in question, where he is credited as "THEO ANGELOPOULOS". However the DVD cover and some of the extras list the name as "Théo Angelopoulos"

Based on last post by Skip ("add or subtract no data"), I am guessing that the correct lower case adjustment would be "Theo" and not "Théo", right?

Assuming that the accent would have also existed on the credited capitalised name, if it was needed. But I'm not familiar with French grammar, so not sure if they drop accents when they capitalize.

Tony

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That is under re-consideration by Ken and Gerri and they have not settled it.

I think I missed this one and was not able to find any post from Gerri indicating the rule is not still in effect. Could you please point me to it.

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I will say what I always say and what I had in mind at the time. Cope exactkly what you SEE, not what you imagine, make the lower case adjustment, but add or subtract NO data that ACTUALLY appears On Screen.

Skip

Tony,
in case you didn't notice, you kind of stepped into a mine field here.

Skip is having the opinion that accents are something that are added to letters (so ´ is added to e making it é). Hence his opinion is that converting for example THEO to Théo adds additional data (the ´) that is not present on the screen, and hence is the result of a personaly interpretation of the data.

Others (my self included) are not agreeing, as there is no one to one mapping between uppercase and lowercase characters in all languages. For example are accents typically not used on uppercase characters in French, meaning the uppercase of é is E, while the lowercase of E is either e or é (there are more variants of course, but this will do for the example). With the two possible lowercase interpretations of "E", it is my opinion that you are making a personal choice no matter which one you choose, meaning neither "e" or "é" is more "neutral" than the other, and hence sticking to "e" does not give a more accurate database, but it does make it less usefull for people in a number of countries.

This example is an outstanding example of why the ORIGINAL intent should be followed and I trust that Ken and gerrin will ultimately agree. this a case of mass hallucination onn the part of the French and inserting diacriticals where NONE exist in actuyality. Though if it appears ON SCREEN it should be included regardless. It is after all largely the Freench who raised the big fuss over this issue, even attempting to raise that FRANCOIS should be François, which is patently UNTRUE, it MAY be François, it may NOT be as well.

I remain unopposed to using the CA system to deal with issues pertaining to culture. But I am unalterably opposed to departing from the departing from the design concept for cultural issues.

Skip

I so hope we get Unicode support soon.

Then we can start removing all the dots over  the "i", where it has been added when following American cultural standards when converting "I" to lowercase.

Through the CA system...fine.

Skip

It's better than perverting the very foundation of the Rules.

Skip