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Multi-locality releases - a possible solution for implementation?
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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorRander
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Okay, it has been discussed before, specifically with "splicing" movie-credits between localities, but it suddenly occured to me what a possible solution could be. In stead of posting this in the Feature Request-forum, I'm posting it here to see if any of you can find any flaws in my logic... Okay, so not "if", but "what" flaws you can find...  )

My suggestion is: Multiple localities for a profile! Confused? Read on...

Here in Denmark, it is not uncommon to find "pan-Scandinavian" releases - that is, releases that are identical in the Nordic countries (Denmark, Sweden, Norway and Finland). These are typically identifiable with the overview on the back being in all four languages (example). This title is currently in the database four times - once for each locality.

I have previously suggested that we get new localities like "Scandinavian," "European," "Worldwide" and such, but I agree that it would probably take to much work to find out which of these a profile is in.

But what if we had the opportunity to select multiple localities for a profile? Then, when I try to add the title in the example (The Associate), DVDP could then - instead of searching only my own locality - tell me that there is a title with the same EAN in for example the Swedish locality. I could then preview this, find that it is in fact the same DVD, add it and then ADD the Danish locality to the profile (and contribute, of course).

The result of this would be that we suddenly have both Danish and Swedish users working together in getting the profile right - that is one upside I see. Another is less space-requirement for Ken (the online database and covers).

The only potential problem I can see right now is in the overview, as (again, referring to the example cover above) Finnish users might not be to happy with the overview in their language being at the bottom of a "four-language" overview, but that could be solved by introducing language-tags in the overview, like

[dk]Danish overview[/dk]
[n]Norwegian overview[/n]
[sf]Finnish overview[/sf]
(can't do Swedish example here, as the forum interprets it as a strike-through HTML-tag )

and so on. DVDP could then show just the overview for your locality (if present), but should of course show the entire "four-language" overview including language-tags when editing the profile, as I suspect managing this server side would be rather difficult to implement on the database...

This would not only imply to Scandinavian releases, but also to a host of others that are released in multiple localities, without changing EANs or the cover being localized - one example that springs to mind is Hornblower, which I believe has the same EAN and "original" UK-cover all over Europe, not to mention music-DVDs, which tend to be global releases, it seems...

So, is this too far fetched? What have I overlooked?
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Benelux releases are very common as well. UK-Irish releases do exist.
Global releases are uncommon as far as I know, if only because of the PAL/NTSC distinction.

An area that might need some extra attention is the SRP (different currencies, e.g. in Scandinavia), and possibly different release dates.
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don't forget different cut to comply with local censorship and rating of the dvd..
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Ratings, yes, but different cuts? I don't get that, as we're talking of one and the same release containing one and the same disc(s).
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we already seen the re-use of disc-id for other titles.
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Yes, but that's a different type of problem that in se is not specific for Rander's proposal.
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and same ean and disc-id and different releases of the same movie
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Quoting Rander:
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Then, when I try to add the title in the example (The Associate), DVDP could then - instead of searching only my own locality - tell me that there is a title with the same EAN in for example the Swedish locality. I could then preview this, find that it is in fact the same DVD, add it and then ADD the Danish locality to the profile (and contribute, of course).


This is already happening in dvd profiler, this depends on your settings in add by title or ean:
location: any
release: any

and by the settings in:
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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorRander
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Then, when I try to add the title in the example (The Associate), DVDP could then - instead of searching only my own locality - tell me that there is a title with the same EAN in for example the Swedish locality. I could then preview this, find that it is in fact the same DVD, add it and then ADD the Danish locality to the profile (and contribute, of course).


This is already happening in dvd profiler, this depends on your settings in add by title or ean:
location: any
release: any

True, but I believe that the locality defaults to to your own, but I'm not quite sure about this.

What I was aiming for was DVDP showing you other locality releases when entering EAN/UPCs - and I just noticed that it actually does that! 

But still, a profile can still only contain one locality. Chaning that was kind'a the point of my suggestion...
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I don't see the multiple localities as a problem, except for the film data (credits). I would like to have one common global profile for all the film data because this is the part that requires the most attention and is frequently corrected as new features are added, common names and birthyears etc. This doesn't work now because the changes are not propagated to all localities.
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