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Updated Lyrics = Song Writing Credits?
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorprimetime21
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Just curious to get thoughts on this.  When an existing song is re-written (most of the time would be lyrics, but could be music as well) for a movie, would you add song writing credits to the crew?

I'm sure there are many, many examples, but what made me think of it is in Deadpool, an existing song "Deadpool Rap" had it lyrics re-written to reference the movie not the video game.

Would this qualify as song writing credits?  It seems by the definition it could be seen that way ("Original Songs, written specifically for the film").
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It's hard to say, really, but I've seen such "specifically altered/updated for the movie" songs being contributed and approved into the database on several occasions.
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If a song has been completely rewritten for a film and has additional songwriters to the original version, then I think it's eligible for inclusion.
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The  Academy of Motion Pictures Arts and Sciences defines "Original Song" as follows:

"An original song consists of words and music, both of which are original and written specifically for the motion picture. There must be a clearly audible, intelligible, substantive rendition (not necessarily visually presented) of both lyric and melody, used in the body of the motion picture or as the first music cue in the end credits."

So, if only one component of the song has changed (lyrics only or music only) then it is not considered an original song written specifically for the motion picture by the Academy.
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Quoting ObiKen:
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"An original song consists of words and music, both of which are original and written specifically for the motion picture.

The requirement of both words and music is interesting, indeed. Of course, in the DVD Profiler universe, there's always going to be someone that says: "well, we're not the Academy of Motion Pictures Arts and Sciences, this definition is not part of our contribution rules", but personally, I think I'm going to apply this particular definition going forward.
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I'm with T!M on this one.
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I'm with T!M on this one.

I agree.
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Thanks everyone--I could see it potentially either way, but I chose not to submit.  If the music had changed too I probably would have.
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No, a cover is a cover no matter how much you change it. You didn't really write it, revision doesn't count. If the idea wasn't from you, it ain't yours.

Enjoy my 2 cents as a former musician who did re-write a song or 2, and 20+ more when our other rapper quit the band.
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No, a cover is a cover no matter how much you change it. You didn't really write it, revision doesn't count. If the idea wasn't from you, it ain't yours.

Enjoy my 2 cents as a former musician who did re-write a song or 2, and 20+ more when our other rapper quit the band.


Well in the example I was referencing from Deadpool, it was the original group changing lyrics to their own song, but your point is well taken.
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