Quoting MikaLove:

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There are two things here. BULLying, and BULLsh!t.

What on earth differs from the T2 "logo" and the MIIB "logo"? In the two examples of DVD covers.

NOTHING. So get it straight.

I'm gonna contribute the MIB/MIIB editions the way I see them and the way it is per the rules, and let the screeners decide. Not you.

And FYI, I had two contributions approved a couple of days ago, that 5 of you voted no for. Including TMM...! Hah. Victory tastes sweet.
The rules are the rules and you do not stand above them.
Agree, bully and    as much as you like. I couldn't care less.

Wow.  I am not sure how to respond to this.

Why must you be so arrogant, and believe that your opinion is more correct than anybody elses.  And yes, I used the term arrogant in the correct manor, unlike your use of the word hypocrite.

Why is it, when somebody disagrees with you, you must retort like you have been personally injured?  To say that I (or anybody else in this discussion) is bullying you is rediculous.  To say we are full of bs may be true in a lot of cases, but not in this one. 

Unfortunately, you appear to be in the minority in this discussion.  Does that mean you are wrong? Not necessarily.  Does that mean you are right?  Maybe or not.  It really doesn't matter. 

You asked a question earlier

Quoting Mikalove:

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Should we have to "lock things and keep them locally", because your arguments are basically irrational and illogical?

We all could also call your argument irrational and illogical.  Why should we have to lock them to give into your "illogical" argument.  Unfortunately, when you have to resort to this sort of behavior, you have already lost the argument/debate/discussion.

I will quote Myself

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This is definitely something that needs to be adjudicated by ken/Gerri

In my DB, I have 2 that are titled without the "Graphic"  2 that are titled with the "Graphic".  I have personally removed the graphic for my DB, as I think that is the correct form.

To me MIB, MIIB, and MIB³ are all "stylized logos".  This is reinforced by the fact that the titles (at least on my copies) are printed directly below the "logos".

To include the logos, then the printed title i.e. MIB:Men in Black, is redundant and implies an episodic descriptor, which it is not.

This is of course my opinion.

one clarification to add.  If the logo is the only item present on the cover, then we must use that logo.  If is presented as a logo with the title also printed, then the printed title should prevail.  This is MY OPINION

That is all

Charlie.

Quoting kd5:

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To the group, I'm sorry I reopened this can of worms with my thread, I hope you can forgive me...

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You should not be apologizing for opening a thread to ask a question.

Most of the thread was a civil discussion of the points and there is nothing wrong with that.  Don't let the fact that some do not have the maturity to have a civil discussion ever stop you from asking a question.

Quoting Grendell:

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Quoting MikaLove:

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There are two things here. BULLying, and BULLsh!t.

I wholeheartedly agree. A lot of elitism, bullying, and appallingly disrespectful treatment from older people who should know better. What's even more disturbing to me is that a lot of these people are parents.

Interesting since the first post I found to be disrespectful was yours.

Posting a list outlining '15 Styles of Distorted Thinking" was neither helpful or respectful. It was deliberately insulting.

I feel that your posts continue to insult people right through to your last post.

It might be you that should know better and it would help if you try to be a bit more respectful to others.

Edit: I suggest you go through and read some of your posts - I find them to be "A lot of elitism, bullying and appallingly disrespectful..."

If you can't see how insulting many of your posts are, then it is possible that...

Quoting Grendell:

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Your arrogance blinds you.

Bring back Skip.

I guess that pretty much sums it up.

Personally I don't think he is that far off on a few of his points. Not all of them.

I would like to know who decided about when what is on the cover is not part of the title.
I've read the rules multiple times. Can't find anything about what is considered a logo, and when it is or isn't part of the title.

Was there a vote that I missed, or was it before I got the program? Was it a handful of old-timers that just decided and that's that no discussion. Or was it a screener that decided by their  or on a contribution. But the next week do the opposite.

I'm suprised a moderator hasn't step in yet, but he may be working another job, flipping burgers or something else that is more important.

Whatever you think I'm being, you're probably right, I know how I am. And I don't care. The problem is some people have no clue how they really come across to other people.

Quoting ateo357:

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I would like to know who decided about when what is on the cover is not part of the title.
I've read the rules multiple times. Can't find anything about what is considered a logo, and when it is or isn't part of the title.

While reading the rules, did you find anything that told you what, of all the text that is printed on the cover, is or isn't part of the title?  (Yes, this is a rhetorical question.)

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Was there a vote that I missed, or was it before I got the program? Was it a handful of old-timers that just decided and that's that no discussion. Or was it a screener that decided by their  or on a contribution. But the next week do the opposite.

I am not sure why you are asking this question as it has already been answered...several times.  Maybe this, too, was a rhetorical question, but I will make one last attempt to answer it.

The title rule, "Use the title from the front cover," is a very general one.  While there are a couple of exceptions...possessives being one...it does not specify what, of all the text that is printed on the front cover, is the actual title.  Since it doesn't, each user has to decide, for themselves, what text to use.

Speaking for myself, I try and use the actual title whenever possible, while still following the rules and Ken's clarifications.  So, if the only thing on the cover is a logo, which I believe MIB is, I will use that as the title.  If, however, there is a logo as well as the printed title, I will use only the printed title because combining the logo and the title just doesn't make any sense to me.  After that, it is up to the voters and screeners to decide which is correct.

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Whatever you think I'm being, you're probably right, I know how I am. And I don't care. The problem is some people have no clue how they really come across to other people.

Actually, the problem is, some people know how they are and just don't care...but that isn't the biggest problem.  The biggest problem is not accepting that other people have a different opinion.

Quoting TheMadMartian:

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Whatever you think I'm being, you're probably right, I know how I am. And I don't care. The problem is some people have no clue how they really come across to other people.

Actually, the problem is, some people know how they are and just don't care...but that isn't the biggest problem.  The biggest problem is not accepting that other people have a different opinion.


I realize other people may have differing opinions. I do take them into account, I will have a contribution up with 30 yes votes and if I get a no vote I'll remove it, without taking into account whether it is a valid reason for voting no or not. It's their opinion that it is wrong and I wouldn't want to add any bad info to the database.