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| Registered: July 16, 2010 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 527 |
| | Posted: | | | | I want to join in! I'd just like to say that I agree.  | | | | Do you ever find yourself striving for perfection with an almost worthless attempt at it? Guttermouth "Lemon Water". Also, I include in my Profiler database VHS tapes, audio DVDs, audio books (digital, cassette and CD), video games (digital, DVD and CD) and 'enhanced' CDs with video tracks on them, as well as films and TV I've bought digitally. So I'm an anarchist, deal with it. Just be thankful I don't include most of my records and CDs etc in it too; don't think I haven't been tempted... |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 4,678 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting bbbbbb: Quote:
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The fact that overview text has filtering functions proves that Ken did not wanted, at the beginning, just to reproduce the cover, thing that is perfectly done by the scan. If the overview does not represent the movie, its filtering function becomes totally useless.
Filtering the Overview makes it possible to find the particular DVD where Willis was accidently named Wallis.
Do that with a cover scan. Well, that argument goes both ways. If the overview contains something that you might want to use in a filter, and that word is misspelled, the filter will fail to find it if the word is not corrected. Seems to me that this is a much more likely scenario than actually searching for a certain misspelling. That said, I still think that such corrections might be best done locally. I agree with the majority that allowing corrections in the overview is iffy. | | | My freeware tools for DVD Profiler users.
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| Registered: March 29, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 4,479 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting GSyren: Quote:
That said, I still think that such corrections might be best done locally. I think that everybody posting on those forums takes the time to optimize his local. But I also think that a great majority of silent users have no time to work on their data, and consider (or hope) that data they get online is correct. My opinion is that sending voluntarily wrong data online is just sabotage many users data. | | | | Images from movies |
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| Registered: March 31, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 2,798 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting surfeur51: Quote:
I think that everybody posting on those forums takes the time to optimize his local. But I also think that a great majority of silent users have no time to work on their data, and consider (or hope) that data they get online is correct. My opinion is that sending voluntarily wrong data online is just sabotage many users data. How can it be wrong when it is right.? | | | | Last edited: by ruben. |
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| Registered: March 29, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 4,479 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting ruben.: Quote:
How can it be wrong when it is right.? Nobody will never convince me (nor anybody except Invelos rules worshipers) that Bruce Wallis is the right way to spell "Die Hard" main actor's name (just an example). | | | | Images from movies |
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| Registered: March 20, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 2,851 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting surfeur51: Quote:
Nobody will never convince me (nor anybody except Invelos rules worshipers) that Bruce Wallis is the right way to spell "Die Hard" main actor's name (just an example). I don't think anyone has tried to convince you of that. The "right way to spell" things has nothing to do with entering data "correctly". You just enter what you see, regardless of what you'd like to see. --------------- |
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| Registered: March 29, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 4,479 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting scotthm: Quote:
You just enter what you see, regardless of what you'd like to see.
Exactly as for runtime ? | | | | Images from movies |
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| Registered: March 31, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,798 |
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| Registered: May 29, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,475 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting surfeur51: Quote:
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You just enter what you see, regardless of what you'd like to see.
Exactly as for runtime ? This is addressed in the rules: "Use the Running time specified on the DVD cover unless you can verify there is a discrepancy between that and the actual Running time." Edited for spelling error...kind of ironic considering the topic!  | | | | Last edited: by Kathy |
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| Registered: March 20, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,851 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting surfeur51: Quote:
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You just enter what you see, regardless of what you'd like to see.
Exactly as for runtime ? You might have a point if you could find a copy of the overview somewhere on the DVD. --------------- |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting surfeur51: Quote:
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That said, I still think that such corrections might be best done locally.
I think that everybody posting on those forums takes the time to optimize his local. But I also think that a great majority of silent users have no time to work on their data, and consider (or hope) that data they get online is correct. My opinion is that sending voluntarily wrong data online is just sabotage many users data. So, once again you are stating your belief as fact with no evidence to support it. What you call voluntarily wrong data is also merely your opinion, I see you correction data as pure fiction which does not match the data. And as such it belongs ONLY in your local. You have been defesated on this every time you have ever brought it up. Please drop it and move onto something more productive and stop wasting everyone's time, we all know that you want there to be no Rules and that data correctness is defined soley by you and you have no concept of DATA entry. | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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| Registered: March 29, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 4,479 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Kathy: Quote:
This is addressed in the rules: "Use the Running time specified on the DVD cover unless you can verify there is a discrepancy between that and the actual Running time." I agree, but if there is a spelling mistake in an actor's name, you can also verify the correct spelling in end credits of the disc. If the overview concerns another movie, you can verify that it is not matching the movie you watch. I still do not see why rules accept to correct errors for runtime, and not errors in overview. Now, I also know that rules do not allow to change anything in the overview. Until rules change, my position in this case, as I already wrote, is not to contribute this overview, with a note like "partial contribution, since overview contains errors that should not be sent to other users". After all, nobody is requested to contribute, and specially errors. And if we go a little further... In their introduction, rules say "The authoritative source for information submitted should be the DVD itself. .. always verify the specifications printed on the cover. In both cases, errors abound, so always verify the information directly from the DVD whenever possible. With this, if you can verify the correct spelling of an actor's name in end credits, you should be allowed to correct a spelling mistake on the cover. | | | | Images from movies | | | | Last edited: by surfeur51 |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | So correct it locally and be done with it. You can take pride in being "right". You don't understand the concept of data entry or what it means you are dealing with a large base of users, clearly. So do things your way locally and abide by the Rules for Contribution, it's not all that hard to do. I am not at all inrerested in your concept of correct data, or data as interpreted by Yves. | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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| Registered: March 20, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,851 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting surfeur51: Quote:
if there is a spelling mistake in an actor's name, you can also verify the correct spelling in end credits of the disc. The abundance of common name threads discredits this notion. Quote:
I still do not see why rules accept to correct errors for runtime, and not errors in overview. I don't understand why, since it's been explained already in this thread. The run time is an attribute of the film, and can thus be checked against the film itself. The overview is simply a marketing tool, and exists solely to help sell a DVD package. It is not a part of the film. A film with no run time does not exist. A film with no overview is not diminished in any way. --------------- |
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| Registered: March 29, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 2,749 |
| | Posted: | | | | Just because I want to get my 2 cents in there, I like data. For me, data should reflect actual, not what was meant. | | | | Marty - Registered July 10, 2004, User since 2002. |
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