Welcome to the Invelos forums. Please read the forum rules before posting.

Read access to our public forums is open to everyone. To post messages, a free registration is required.

If you have an Invelos account, sign in to post.

    Invelos Forums->DVD Profiler: Contribution Discussion Page: 1... 6 7 8 9 10 ...15  Previous   Next
Question on a Title
Author Message
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorCharlieM
Registered Sept 5 2005
Registered: May 20, 2007
Reputation: High Rating
United States Posts: 2,934
Posted:
PM this userVisit this user's homepageView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting hal9g:
Quote:
Quoting CharlieM:
Quote:
Quoting VirusPil:
Quote:



I think I would tend

"Garfield 2 Movie Collection"  All title, no edition


Agreed



Then can we also agree

"The Parent Trap 2 Movie Collection"  all title, no edition (same-same)
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorCharlieM
Registered Sept 5 2005
Registered: May 20, 2007
Reputation: High Rating
United States Posts: 2,934
Posted:
PM this userVisit this user's homepageView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
with all this discussion...

I am not sure how the edition field would really work with box sets.

Unless we have 

"Dirty harry Collection"

"Dirty harry Collection (The Directors Cuts)"

Can all these "Collections" and "Double Features" really be applied to an edition field for a box set?

Just asking...


Charlie
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorVirusPil
uncredited
Registered: January 1, 2009
Reputation: Highest Rating
Germany Posts: 3,087
Posted:
PM this userDirect link to this postReply with quote
Tomorrow I'll go on. I think I have to change my mind. 
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorAddicted2DVD
Registered: March 13, 2007
Reputation: Highest Rating
United States Posts: 17,334
Posted:
PM this userEmail this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting hal9g:
Quote:
Quoting Addicted2DVD:
Quote:
Quoting hal9g:
Quote:
Quoting Addicted2DVD:
Quote:
Quoting hal9g:
Quote:
Title: Batman Collection


But it has all the titles... no different then The Parent Trap. You are basing your opinion on one word being present Collection (or similar I am sure). I don't believe it matters if the word collection is there or not.


But it does matter.  It makes all the difference.  It tells you that the release in question is a collection of movies and not just a single movie.  The title "The Parent Trap" would indicate to almost anybody that the release in question is the single movie "The Parent Trap".  It's just simple English!


This is not supported by the Rules... only by a personal preference. Unless you can show me where it tells us to do this in the rules of course. I couldn't find it.


Fine.  But common sense tells me that the title "The Parent Trap" for a release that contains two movies just isn't right.  I'm through.


Common sense tells me to do everything per Rules No matter if I agree with the info I am submitting or not. In the case of The Parent Trap... going strictly by the title rules and the edition Rules it should be how I submitted... at least for the online profile.
Pete
DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar Contributorhal9g
Who is John Galt?
Registered: March 13, 2007
Reputation: High Rating
United States Posts: 6,635
Posted:
PM this userEmail this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting Addicted2DVD:
Quote:
If it is not part of the title... then it would be against the rules to have it in the title. As that field is only for the actual title.

We can't help if the title is not considered "useful enough" for users.


So, the title for 'Batman' should be blank, since there is no title on the cover.

This would be very useful for the user community!
Hal
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorAddicted2DVD
Registered: March 13, 2007
Reputation: Highest Rating
United States Posts: 17,334
Posted:
PM this userEmail this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
All I can go by the rules and the front cover. What is "useful" don't come into it when I make a contribution.
Pete
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorscotthm
Registered: March 20, 2007
Reputation: Great Rating
United States Posts: 2,851
Posted:
PM this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
So much for the theory that banning certain persons will end such arguments.  I leave the house for a few hours and find six pages of arguments waiting...

Sorry for the interruption.

---------------
DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar Contributorhal9g
Who is John Galt?
Registered: March 13, 2007
Reputation: High Rating
United States Posts: 6,635
Posted:
PM this userEmail this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting CharlieM:
Quote:
Quoting hal9g:
Quote:
Quoting CharlieM:
Quote:
Quoting VirusPil:
Quote:



I think I would tend

"Garfield 2 Movie Collection"  All title, no edition


Agreed



Then can we also agree

"The Parent Trap 2 Movie Collection"  all title, no edition (same-same)


Like I said, that would definitely be better than:

Title: The Parent Trap
Edition: 2-Movie Collection
Hal
DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar Contributorhal9g
Who is John Galt?
Registered: March 13, 2007
Reputation: High Rating
United States Posts: 6,635
Posted:
PM this userEmail this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting CharlieM:
Quote:
with all this discussion...

I am not sure how the edition field would really work with box sets.

Unless we have 

"Dirty harry Collection"

"Dirty harry Collection (The Directors Cuts)"

Can all these "Collections" and "Double Features" really be applied to an edition field for a box set?

Just asking...


Charlie


I agree.  They are not "Editions" when we're talking about boxsets.  They're part of the title.
Hal
DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar Contributorhal9g
Who is John Galt?
Registered: March 13, 2007
Reputation: High Rating
United States Posts: 6,635
Posted:
PM this userEmail this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting Addicted2DVD:
Quote:
Quoting hal9g:
Quote:
Quoting Addicted2DVD:
Quote:
Quoting hal9g:
Quote:
Quoting Addicted2DVD:
Quote:
Quoting hal9g:
Quote:
Title: Batman Collection


But it has all the titles... no different then The Parent Trap. You are basing your opinion on one word being present Collection (or similar I am sure). I don't believe it matters if the word collection is there or not.


But it does matter.  It makes all the difference.  It tells you that the release in question is a collection of movies and not just a single movie.  The title "The Parent Trap" would indicate to almost anybody that the release in question is the single movie "The Parent Trap".  It's just simple English!


This is not supported by the Rules... only by a personal preference. Unless you can show me where it tells us to do this in the rules of course. I couldn't find it.


Fine.  But common sense tells me that the title "The Parent Trap" for a release that contains two movies just isn't right.  I'm through.


Common sense tells me to do everything per Rules No matter if I agree with the info I am submitting or not. In the case of The Parent Trap... going strictly by the title rules and the edition Rules it should be how I submitted... at least for the online profile.


Where do the Rules define what on the front cover is actually part of the title; or the edition field?
Hal
DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar Contributorhal9g
Who is John Galt?
Registered: March 13, 2007
Reputation: High Rating
United States Posts: 6,635
Posted:
PM this userEmail this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting scotthm:
Quote:
So much for the theory that banning certain persons will end such arguments.  I leave the house for a few hours and find six pages of arguments waiting...

Sorry for the interruption.

---------------


I think the difference is that there has been no name-calling or insults hurled.  At least I don't think so.
Hal
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorDoubleDownAgain
I see better with 'em on
Registered: March 13, 2007
Reputation: Great Rating
Canada Posts: 1,272
Posted:
PM this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting scotthm:
Quote:
So much for the theory that banning certain persons will end such arguments.  I leave the house for a few hours and find six pages of arguments waiting...

Sorry for the interruption.

---------------


While there has been disagreements and some of it might have a bit of snarkiness to it no one has resorted to name calling and/or other questionable posts.  I've gone back and forth on the subject and am still not sure how I feel on the debate because I can see both sides.
HDTV: 52" Toshiba Regza 52XV545U  AVR: Onkyo TR-707
Speakers: Paradigm Monitor 7 v6, CC-190 & Atom Monitors  Subwoofer: Definitive Technology ProSub 800
BD/DVD: Oppo BDP-93 (Region Free)  HD PVR: Motorola DXC3400 500GB w/ 1TB Expander
BD/DVD/Game: 250GB PS3 Slim DVD/Game: 250GB XBox 360 Elite Special Edition (Black) Game: Wii
Remote: Logitech Harmony One w/ PS3 Adapter WHS: Acer H341 Windows Home Server
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorCharlieM
Registered Sept 5 2005
Registered: May 20, 2007
Reputation: High Rating
United States Posts: 2,934
Posted:
PM this userVisit this user's homepageView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
So in all realism, it depends how the box set is presented

In one instance the title would be

"Arthur / Arthur 2 Comedy Double feature"

Other times

"Garfield 2 movie collection"

But what about this

?

We are always going to end up with strange things
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorAddicted2DVD
Registered: March 13, 2007
Reputation: Highest Rating
United States Posts: 17,334
Posted:
PM this userEmail this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
You have to use your judgment on what the title is just like any and all releases. Which I did per front cover... backed up my opinion with the spine (note: The title is not coming from the spine... it just helped me to decide).

As for the Edition...

Rules Quote:
Quote:

Edition
The Edition field is for distinguishing between DVDs, and for indicating special versions and collections (for example The Criterion Collection, Widescreen, Full-Screen Edition, Director's Cut). It's usually safe to use one of the built-in selections if appropriate. If you are using a non-standard description, take it from the DVD box, and ensure it will help distinguish between different releases of the same title.

Do not enter media types (such as "Blu-Ray + DVD + Digital Copy") into the edition or title field.


See what I put in bold... indicating Collections is to be put in the Edition field.

There is no clarification in the Boxset Rules. So boxsets is no different.

And then at the beginning of the Rules it says...

Quote:
These rules apply to all kinds of profiles, but there are two special cases where the rules need clarifications. Where you see the icons shown below, refer to the special instructions at the end of this document. These are titled Movie Box sets and TV Series on DVD.
Box sets containing more than one film
TV Series on DVD

Note: The standard rules do apply for these special cases; the sections clarify specific ways the rules apply to box sets and television series on DVD.


Notice the last line I put in bold... it says the standard rules still do apply in these cases.
Pete
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorAddicted2DVD
Registered: March 13, 2007
Reputation: Highest Rating
United States Posts: 17,334
Posted:
PM this userEmail this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting hal9g:
Quote:
Quoting scotthm:
Quote:
So much for the theory that banning certain persons will end such arguments.  I leave the house for a few hours and find six pages of arguments waiting...

Sorry for the interruption.

---------------


I think the difference is that there has been no name-calling or insults hurled.  At least I don't think so.


I agree... I seen no problem with any of the posts.

You are not going to stop arguments. But how you argue can make all the difference in the world.
Pete
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorscotthm
Registered: March 20, 2007
Reputation: Great Rating
United States Posts: 2,851
Posted:
PM this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting Addicted2DVD:
Quote:
I agree... I seen no problem with any of the posts.

Yes it has been civil,  but it's also bordering on endless...

---------------
    Invelos Forums->DVD Profiler: Contribution Discussion Page: 1... 6 7 8 9 10 ...15  Previous   Next