The film played theatrically before it aired on television. It may have been funded by PBS but there are many, many theatrical films fully or partly funded by TV networks in the US and other countries around the world (the BBC's many theatrical releases eg.)

This film would not have been eligible for an Oscar had it simply been a "made-for-TV documentary".

There are precendents for this in the database already:

Full Tilt Boogie as a child profile for From Dusk Til Dawn

Hearts of Darkness as a child profile for Apocalpyse Now

Both are "video documentary material regarding the film, or those associated with it." 

Anyway, that's all I have to say on the matter - it's not even my contribution.

Quoting Michael A:

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The film played theatrically before it aired on television. It may have been funded by PBS but there are many, many theatrical films fully or partly funded by TV networks in the US and other countries around the world (the BBC's many theatrical releases eg.)

This film would not have been eligible for an Oscar had it simply been a "made-for-TV documentary".

There are precendents for this in the database already:

Full Tilt Boogie as a child profile for From Dusk Til Dawn

Hearts of Darkness as a child profile for Apocalpyse Now

Both are "video documentary material regarding the film, or those associated with it." 

Anyway, that's all I have to say on the matter - it's not even my contribution.

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What you're saying is that since the rules have been broken in the past, it's OK to break them in the future.
That's not a novel idea, but I think it's a bad one.

What he's saying is that this is in line with the rules. It is a theatrical feature and shoudl be tracked. This isn't the only such case and we've already settled what to do in this situation.

It has nothing to be with it being high quality. It's because the documentary was a theatrical film. There's nothing in the rules to say you shouldn't count a bonus feature because it's about the main feature.

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Quoting Ace_of_Sevens:

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There's nothing in the rules to say you shouldn't count a bonus feature because it's about the main feature.

As has been pointed out several times, from The Rules:

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Do not confuse "Bonus Feature Films" with "Any video documentary material regarding the film, or those associated with it." Those are Featurettes.

No one is saying that a bonus feature "doesn't count" because it's about the main feature.  The fact that is about the main feature makes it--as defined by the rules--NOT a bonus feature.  It is a featurette.

It's as clear as day.  But don't worry too much over it, with such an overwhelmingly positive vote I'd be shocked if it was declined.

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The Battle Over Citizen Kane is not a "video documentary". It's a theatrical film. The rule you quote is about video documentaries, which this is not. Video is TV or direct-to-video; not film.

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The rule you quote is about video documentaries, which this is not. Video is TV or direct-to-video; not film.

Here is what is actually on the DVD.  All screenshots are in the order they appear in this video documentary.  It looks an awful lot like a television program to me.






















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This place is a freakin' gongshow I tell ya.

Even when someone is actually proven to be incorrect (PROVEN to be incorrect, not just someone disagreeing with them), crap like this still rages on...

Some people on this board really just like to see their friggin' name up on the screen. I can't figure another reason why shiitake mushroom like this drags on when there's no need for it. God forbid someone, anyone, actually might say "hmmm... maybe I may have been incorrect". Nope. Not on this board. NEVER. That would be like seeing the sun rise at midnight... Everyone's gotta be right to the bitter end.

Freakin' gongshow.

"It looks an awful lot like a television program to me."

Good lord...

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When the the people responsible for the most important award an American film can get, say it is a theatrically released motion picture, I don't see how anybody can argue otherwise. 

I haven't argued otherwise.  I'm sure that at least some portion (and perhaps all) of what's on the DVD was released theatrically.

I'm also certain that what's on the DVD is an episode of a television series, and that this episode is "video documentary material regarding the film [Citizen Kane], or those associated with it."

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