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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 13,201 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting heathen: Quote:
As I JUST got through saying and you JUST quoted: "I have successfully submitted several bonus discs over the years with no problem." The problem is not with the disc, it's with the program. If you are able to contribute other bonus discs, then the odds are it isn't the program. If it were, you would have the same problem each time...which is why I asked if you could reproduce the error with a different disc. Since you can't, then it is probably the disc that is causing the issue. That being said, I am trying to figure out why we are bothering to try an help you. While it may not be what you intended, your posts are coming across with a bit of an attitude.  | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
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| Registered: March 27, 2007 | | Posts: 47 |
| | Posted: | | | | It is NOT the disc. It is the program. It is the program that reads the disc. The program that processes the information. And it is failing in at least one of those areas. The disc is NOT the problem. The disc is just a disc. It merely exists. It has no input nor any ways to alter the outcome of the improper processing of the program. | | | | Last edited: by heathen |
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| Registered: June 12, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 2,665 |
| | Posted: | | | | The disc could have have been processed/stamped/pressed in a fashion different from all the other discs. Your history with other discs isn't relevant to this disc. If the program worked with the other discs, there is no reason to think it would work differently with this disc...unless something is different about this disc. | | | | Bad movie? You're soaking in it! |
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| Registered: March 27, 2007 | | Posts: 47 |
| | Posted: | | | | Your logic is flawed. Regardless of how the disc was processed/stamped/pressed, it still is just there to be read and processed by the program, which it is failing to do one or the other. Also, all discs have standards to be manufactured against, and I think that any DVD made in this day and age would DEFINITELY adhere to them, as those processes have been perfected. Also, don't let your doubly-flawed logic of "If the program worked with the other discs, there is no reason to think it would work differently with this disc" blind you any further. There have been COUNTLESS program upgrades to countless programs and drivers all in the name of correcting deficiencies with reading specific discs. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 5,491 |
| | Posted: | | | | why is this post 7 pages long??? | | | In the 60's, People took Acid to make the world Weird. Now the World is weird and People take Prozac to make it Normal.
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| Registered: May 20, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,934 |
| | Posted: | | | | Do you have another program that can read the disc info from the disc, Like DVDInfo Pro or ANYDVD.
I would try another program to see if it reads the disc properly. Just in case we have a defective disc. |
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| Registered: June 12, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,665 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting heathen: Quote:
Your logic is flawed. Regardless of how the disc was processed/stamped/pressed, it still is just there to be read and processed by the program, which it is failing to do one or the other. Also, all discs have standards to be manufactured against, and I think that any DVD made in this day and age would DEFINITELY adhere to them, as those processes have been perfected. Also, don't let your doubly-flawed logic of "If the program worked with the other discs, there is no reason to think it would work differently with this disc" blind you any further. There have been COUNTLESS program upgrades to countless programs and drivers all in the name of correcting deficiencies with reading specific discs. I'll try one more time then leave you to stew in your own surliness. Yes, there are standards most DVDs are manufactured against. Please prove the disc in question was manufactured to those standards. | | | | Bad movie? You're soaking in it! |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,201 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting heathen: Quote:
It is NOT the disc. It is the program. It is the program that reads the disc. The program that processes the information. And it is failing in at least one of those areas. The disc is NOT the problem. The disc is just a disc. It merely exists. It has no input nor any ways to alter the outcome of the improper processing of the program. You are making an assumption, which is why I asked if you could reproduce the error. It doesn't matter what you did in the past, can you reproduce this error with another disc right now? Simple experiment...take a disc, stick it in the drive and see if you can change the disc ID. If you can, then the probem is probably the disc. If you can't, then...and only then...can you claim it isn't the disc. Once again I am forced to wonder why we are trying to help you. Here we are, trying to help you get to the bottom of the problem, and all we are getting in return is attitude. I, for one, am done trying. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar | | | | Last edited: by TheMadMartian |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 1,774 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting CharlieM: Quote:
Do you have another program that can read the disc info from the disc, Like DVDInfo Pro or ANYDVD.
I would try another program to see if it reads the disc properly. Just in case we have a defective disc. Or some aggressive form of copy protection. Some discs that use ArCCoS or X-Protect are known for causing troubles in combination with certain DVD drives and software players. Especially "Matshita"-drives are problematic... @heathen:As long as you can't provide information about the copy protection (with AnyDVD or DVDFab) AND your DVD drive, you can't assume that it is Profiler's problem. As you say, other DVDs worked, so why should it be an error of DVD Profiler? | | | | Last edited: by SpaceFreakMicha |
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| Registered: March 27, 2007 | | Posts: 47 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting CharlieM: Quote:
Do you have another program that can read the disc info from the disc, Like DVDInfo Pro or ANYDVD.
I would try another program to see if it reads the disc properly. Just in case we have a defective disc. The disc can be be read by any other program used, on Mac or PC, as well as play in any numerous DVD/Blu-Ray devices. ...and there is no extra copy protection on the disc other than the standard CSS. As I have tried to point out prevously, there is NO PROBLEM WITH THE DISC. The problem lies with the program and how it either reads or processes the information. In fact, Ken above stated the following: Quoting Ken Cole: Quote:
Disc IDs are not validated as UPCs anywhere. That HAS to be a false statement or else I would not be receiving either of the following:   So, for a program that supposedly doesn't validate info, it sure is putting up road blocks and questioning the use and/or validity of the Disc ID of the disc in question. | | | | Last edited: by heathen |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,741 |
| | Posted: | | | | That's because "I-" is not a valid DiscId, it's not even a DiscId at all.
For whatever reason the disc in question does not return a proper DiscId and thus can't be profiled by DVDP. It has nothing to do whether the disc can actually be played by a DVD Player, it's still possible that the disc in question violates the DVD Standard - it may not be on purpose but a false pressing. | | | Karsten
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| Registered: March 18, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,456 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting DJ Doena: Quote:
That's because "I-" is not a valid DiscId, it's not even a DiscId at all. This is correct. You are hitting the problem because DVD Profiler does check for valid Profile ID. The profile ID can be either: (1) 12 or 13 digit UPC/EAN (2) Manual profile ID that starts with "M" followed by up to 12 numeric digits (3) Disc ID that starts with "I" followed by the 16 hex digits from the actual disc (hex digits are 1234567890ABCDEF) So, the "-" character is not allowed in the Disc ID. | | | Thanks for your support.
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| Registered: May 22, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,033 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting DJ Doena: Quote:
 Can you provide a screen cap of this screen (as provided by DJ Doena) for the disc in question? -Agrare |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 1,414 |
| | Posted: | | | | Alas, I looked for other copies of this bonus disc to try to duplicate heathen's issues or submit it, and they're running $40 on the OOP market. At least Heathen has a nice collector's item----regular copies of this disc are selling for $2-3. But I'm not about to spend $40 on a disc that I don't particularly want just to profile it if it might have a defective disc ID.  | | | | "This movie has warped my fragile little mind." |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,491 |
| | Posted: | | | | I thought Berak offered to do all this contribuiton ( back on page 5) if Heathen mailed it off to him.. ?? | | | In the 60's, People took Acid to make the world Weird. Now the World is weird and People take Prozac to make it Normal.
Terry | | | | Last edited: by widescreenforever |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,394 |
| | Posted: | | | | @heathen
I think by now it's pretty clear that you are the only person interested in this disc. I haven't seen a single other person post that he either had or wanted it. I'mnot sure why you are so worked up about not being able to contribute it. You've got the information in your local -- no one else seems to want the information -- so why persist in trying to contribute it? | | | Another Ken (not Ken Cole)
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