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Quoting Rifter:

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You know, when I used to design a database for a client, I always provided a document that listed each and every field that could have user entries made, and defined what it was and what data could or could not be entered.  I don't know why something like that couldn't be included in the installation package for Profiler.  It sure as hell would save everybody a lot of time and energy.

Yes, yes it would.

I agree, too.

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I agree too.  The problem is that my understanding is that Ken isn't treating this so much as His Database as Our Database, and so he has a tendency to want to let us work out among ourselves what we want the fields to include and not include, rather than imposing it from on high.  On one level, that makes good sense, since it makes him and the program and the data responsive to the users of it.  On the other hand, it leads to a lot of endless, fruitless wrangling that I wish he'd just cut off by making a declaration of How It's Going to Be.

Letting us users work thing out is a find idea as long as we ultimately come to some accord.  As I see the current situation, we don't seem to be able to reach ANY consensus.  Ken has changed the name of the field several times after people say we can't use THAT term (publisher, now company).  Every time a new name is put up there, out of the woodwork comes someone else to carp about how it's not "used in the industry" or is a "fictitious" title or isn't a "company."  All these negative comments seem to me to be motivated by a concept that "thou shalt never be allowed to use this field for the data you want to capture."  That's where Ken really needs to weigh in -- so we don't waste more time arguing without ever anyone compromising. 

And by compromising, I don't mean "go ahead and use the NOTES field if you want to keep that data that I personally have no use for.  Just don't clutter MY field with the information."

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Are you not able to use the fields as you wish?  Do other people control your local database?

There are things I would like to be different also, but I don't feel persecuted because the world doesn't revolve around my desires.

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We are not talking about the local database.  We are talking about a small minority preventing data, that isn't against the rules and is wanted by quite a few people, from being entered into the main db.

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Quoting kdh1949:

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Every time a new name is put up there, out of the woodwork comes someone else to carp about how it's not "used in the industry" or is a "fictitious" title or isn't a "company."  All these negative comments seem to me to be motivated by a concept that "thou shalt never be allowed to use this field for the data you want to capture."

Are you not able to use the fields as you wish?  Do other people control your local database?

There are things I would like to be different also, but I don't feel persecuted because the world doesn't revolve around my desires.

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Why do you try to make ME sound selfish when it is people like you who want to prevent data you have no interest in from becoming part of the main db?

In my opinion it is YOU who feel the world should revolve around your desires -- namely to prevent this information from becoming part of the main db.  Data which, as Unicus points out, is not against the rules.  So who's really the one who thinks the world should revolve around his desires?  Hmmm?

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We are not talking about the local database.  We are talking about a small minority preventing data, that isn't against the rules and is wanted by quite a few people, from being entered into the main db.

How can you say how many people are for or against this solution? That is not because people have not told what they think that they don't have an opinion. Before speaking of small minority, a poll should be proposed. As for me, I am strongly against what you want.

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How can you say how many people are for or against this solution? That is not because people have not told what they think that they don't have an opinion. Before speaking of small minority, a poll should be proposed. As for me, I am strongly against what you want.

If you are going to jump into a thread, at least read the whole thing.  Earlier in this thread, I indicated that I based my thinking on the discussions we had concerning this field.  Since you weren't involved, I can see how you would not be aware of how those people felt about the issue.

In addition, the vote on this specific profile was Yes: 29...30 if you include me making the change...No: 14.  Unless my math is wrong here, that is a small minority dictating to the larger majority.

Now, I understand that you now have some perverse need to jump on any post I make, but at least get your facts straight before you do. 

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Now, I understand that you now have some perverse need to jump on any post I make...

  You really think you are so important for me ??? 

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I always thought we were given three fields so we could record up to three pieces of information: the distributor, the publisher and the label.

That was my understanding as well.