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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorTheMadMartian
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Why was this discussion idiotic?  Because you don't agree with the opposing view?  Or is it because you think splitting the title is an idiotic idea that would only happen here?

The second one... Those kind of over the top argumentation about nothing happen a lot arround here.

These over the top arguments wouldn't happen if some users would simply accept differing opinions, rather that belittle those users that don't agree with them.

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For the record, Amazon.com has this DVD listed as 'Yellow Brick Road'...three words. 

So... The Witchmaker Code Red DVD was listed as The Legend of Witch Hollow at Amazon Canada untill I sent them the correct info. So following your interpretation we must list the wrong title in the database because Amazon did an error in their listing when an user created a pre-release profile... Not that I know if there was one or not in the database.

Clearly you missed my point...that point being, the mere fact that Amazon split the title into three words, whether you agree with that conept or not, proves that it wasn't an idiotic idea that would only happen here.  It happend outside of this forum and without the benefit of invelos rules. 
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorJimmy S
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I got your point : Amazon made an error, so what? Not the first time and not the last time it will happen... There is a difference between an error and a volontary error.

But I won't argue with you as you usually play the semantic game and you have the clear advantage of being able to turn whatever I say the way you want as I ain't a native speaker. Also I don't see the point of argue about a movie I don't own and will never own. Finally, as I do my things for myself I can use logic and common sense...
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Any attempt to argue the rule doesn't apply requires using sources other than the DVD cover to determine what the title is. I'm all for this, but the rules only support in the case of posessives.
DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorTheMadMartian
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I got your point : Amazon made an error, so what? Not the first time and not the last time it will happen... There is a difference between an error and a volontary error.

But I won't argue with you as you usually play the semantic game and you have the clear advantage of being able to turn whatever I say the way you want as I ain't a native speaker. Also I don't see the point of argue about a movie I don't own and will never own. Finally, as I do my things for myself I can use logic and common sense...

So you don't see the point in arguing about a movie you don't own, and will never own, but you do see a point in belittling other users?  Maybe it's me, but I don't see the point in posting for the sole purpose of insulting other users.  In my opinion, it's that type of attitude that is the problem in this forum, not the 'over the top arguments'.
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Registered: May 8, 2007
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So you don't see the point in arguing about a movie you don't own, and will never own, but you do see a point in belittling other users?  Maybe it's me, but I don't see the point in posting for the sole purpose of insulting other users.  In my opinion, it's that type of attitude that is the problem in this forum, not the 'over the top arguments'.


Always have to have the last word, eh?

Keep it up. The more pages you can make this thread, the better you'll look. 
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Maybe it's me, but I don't see the point in posting for the sole purpose of insulting other users.

Yes it's you as usual playing the poor victim... Did I name anyone? No, I said that those discussion are idiotic, stupid and retarted nothing else... Unless your magical power make you see something else. There is a big difference between telling this and telling that an user XYZ is stupid, idiot or retarded.

You aren't the one who can tell me what to post and when to post it. If you don't want to read me just use the ignore fonction and don't try to start a fight over nothing as you usually do.
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There is a big difference between telling this and telling that an user XYZ is stupid, idiot or retarded.

Yes, you painted everyone in this thread with the same brush. I don't see how that makes it better... 

And as regards Amazon; they interpreted the title on the DVD cover as three words. You say it's an error because you don't see it as three words. Martian sees it as confirmation that others make the same interpretation as he does. Right or wrong, it proves his point that this doesn't only happen here.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorJimmy S
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For crying out loud you sure had a lot of time to waste on big nothing... feel free to continue to do so, I've better things to do than playing word games or analysing word and color of a dvd cover...
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Whenever I read run of these anal threads, my first thoughts conceive of little rule gnomes sitting at computers running around their basements screaming ANARCHY!!!!!!!!!!!!! ANARCHY!!!!!!!!!!
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantGrendell
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Whenever I read run of these anal threads, my first thoughts conceive of little rule gnomes sitting at computers running around their basements screaming ANARCHY!!!!!!!!!!!!! ANARCHY!!!!!!!!!!


Here's what my thoughts conceive:

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Registered: March 13, 2007
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The intent of the rule that has been quoted, IMHO, was to address those cases where the cover designer takes a title that in reality is multiple words and displays it on the cover all "run together".

It was never intended for situations like this.....IMHO!

I don't disagree.  The problem is, the rule wasn't written that way...at least not in my opinion.  You, and those that agree with you, are free to have a different one.  I have no problem with that and, unlike others, will not mock or insult you because of it.

The way some of you are acting, you would think that a differing opinon is going to cause some catastrophic profiler event.  I honestly don't get it.


I think the Rule is written exactly that way.  The Rule starts with this conditional:

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If the title is shown run together


Therefore, the first thing that we have to do is determine if the Title on the front cover is run together.  It does not say "If the words in the title are run together".

How do we determine if the "Title" is run together.  Well, I contend that it is the same we way determine whether we need to enter an original title:

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For profiles which have an alternate title displayed on the cover, use the title from the film's credits


This, too, is a conditional, albeit worded slightly differently.  It says, if the title on the cover is different from the title in the film's credit, then enter the title in the film's credits as the Original Title.  That means you have to compare the title that appears on the cover with the title that appears in the film's credits.  It is impossible to determine if they are different without doing such a comparison.

My point here is that in order to determine the conditional "If the title is shown run together", you must compare it to something.  The title listed in the title block or the title in the film's credit seem to be the places to be used for comparison since they are in fact source material.  It is inappropriate to use outside sources for this purpose, since we have all the information we need on the DVD cover or the DVD credits.

I believe that you are incorrectly substituting "If the words in the title are run together" for the actual wording of the Rule which says "If the title is run together".
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The intent of the rule that has been quoted, IMHO, was to address those cases where the cover designer takes a title that in reality is multiple words and displays it on the cover all "run together".

It was never intended for situations like this.....IMHO!

I don't disagree.  The problem is, the rule wasn't written that way...at least not in my opinion.  You, and those that agree with you, are free to have a different one.  I have no problem with that and, unlike others, will not mock or insult you because of it.

The way some of you are acting, you would think that a differing opinon is going to cause some catastrophic profiler event.  I honestly don't get it.


I think the Rule is written exactly that way.  The Rule starts with this conditional:

Quoting the Rules:
Quote:
If the title is shown run together


Therefore, the first thing that we have to do is determine if the Title on the front cover is run together.  It does not say "If the words in the title are run together".

How do we determine if the "Title" is run together.  Well, I contend that it is the same we way determine whether we need to enter an original title:

Quoting the Rules:
Quote:
For profiles which have an alternate title displayed on the cover, use the title from the film's credits


This, too, is a conditional, albeit worded slightly differently.  It says, if the title on the cover is different from the title in the film's credit, then enter the title in the film's credits as the Original Title.  That means you have to compare the title that appears on the cover with the title that appears in the film's credits.  It is impossible to determine if they are different without doing such a comparison.

My point here is that in order to determine the conditional "If the title is shown run together", you must compare it to something.  The title listed in the title block or the title in the film's credit seem to be the places to be used for comparison since they are in fact source material.  It is inappropriate to use outside sources for this purpose, since we have all the information we need on the DVD cover or the DVD credits.

I believe that you are incorrectly substituting "If the words in the title are run together" for the actual wording of the Rule which says "If the title is run together".


Nice post. If I wasn't in agreement with you already this would've swayed me.
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Registered: March 14, 2007
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Quoting hal9g:
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Quoting hal9g:
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The intent of the rule that has been quoted, IMHO, was to address those cases where the cover designer takes a title that in reality is multiple words and displays it on the cover all "run together".

It was never intended for situations like this.....IMHO!

I don't disagree.  The problem is, the rule wasn't written that way...at least not in my opinion.  You, and those that agree with you, are free to have a different one.  I have no problem with that and, unlike others, will not mock or insult you because of it.

The way some of you are acting, you would think that a differing opinon is going to cause some catastrophic profiler event.  I honestly don't get it.


I think the Rule is written exactly that way.  The Rule starts with this conditional:

Quoting the Rules:
Quote:
If the title is shown run together


Therefore, the first thing that we have to do is determine if the Title on the front cover is run together.  It does not say "If the words in the title are run together".

How do we determine if the "Title" is run together.  Well, I contend that it is the same we way determine whether we need to enter an original title:

Quoting the Rules:
Quote:
For profiles which have an alternate title displayed on the cover, use the title from the film's credits


This, too, is a conditional, albeit worded slightly differently.  It says, if the title on the cover is different from the title in the film's credit, then enter the title in the film's credits as the Original Title.  That means you have to compare the title that appears on the cover with the title that appears in the film's credits.  It is impossible to determine if they are different without doing such a comparison.

My point here is that in order to determine the conditional "If the title is shown run together", you must compare it to something.  The title listed in the title block or the title in the film's credit seem to be the places to be used for comparison since they are in fact source material.  It is inappropriate to use outside sources for this purpose, since we have all the information we need on the DVD cover or the DVD credits.

I believe that you are incorrectly substituting "If the words in the title are run together" for the actual wording of the Rule which says "If the title is run together".



   
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Registered: March 14, 2007
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Quoting hal9g:
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Quoting TheMadMartian:
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Quoting hal9g:
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The intent of the rule that has been quoted, IMHO, was to address those cases where the cover designer takes a title that in reality is multiple words and displays it on the cover all "run together".

It was never intended for situations like this.....IMHO!

I don't disagree.  The problem is, the rule wasn't written that way...at least not in my opinion.  You, and those that agree with you, are free to have a different one.  I have no problem with that and, unlike others, will not mock or insult you because of it.

The way some of you are acting, you would think that a differing opinon is going to cause some catastrophic profiler event.  I honestly don't get it.


I think the Rule is written exactly that way.  The Rule starts with this conditional:

Quoting the Rules:
Quote:
If the title is shown run together


Therefore, the first thing that we have to do is determine if the Title on the front cover is run together.  It does not say "If the words in the title are run together".

How do we determine if the "Title" is run together.  Well, I contend that it is the same we way determine whether we need to enter an original title:

Quoting the Rules:
Quote:
For profiles which have an alternate title displayed on the cover, use the title from the film's credits


This, too, is a conditional, albeit worded slightly differently.  It says, if the title on the cover is different from the title in the film's credit, then enter the title in the film's credits as the Original Title.  That means you have to compare the title that appears on the cover with the title that appears in the film's credits.  It is impossible to determine if they are different without doing such a comparison.

My point here is that in order to determine the conditional "If the title is shown run together", you must compare it to something.  The title listed in the title block or the title in the film's credit seem to be the places to be used for comparison since they are in fact source material.  It is inappropriate to use outside sources for this purpose, since we have all the information we need on the DVD cover or the DVD credits.

I believe that you are incorrectly substituting "If the words in the title are run together" for the actual wording of the Rule which says "If the title is run together".


Very good post indeed  
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