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Registered: June 21, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 2,621 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Alien Redrum: Quote: I'm going through mine now and ran across something interesting.
Beyond the Door is a two disc set with the rated version on one dvd and the unrated on another.
It is in my collection as a box set (not by me, though I understand why it is).
The parent is currently NR. The Unrated disc is NR. The Rated disc is R.
Now, to submit it, do I change the parent to "Unrated" (since it's the highest) or remove the rating altogether and re-submit it?
Secondly, I then change the child that's rated "NR" to "Unrated" and then re-submit that, is that correct? Unrated, this part of the rule was and still is clear to me. "For DVDs with more than one rating shown (e.g. a DVD which includes an R and Unrated version), use the highest applicable rating with the following scale: NR < Board Rating < Unrated < Adult" Plus that 2-disc Beyond teh Door is a special version (can't recall if it had it's own UPC or not, I think it did on the slipcover but may be wrong), most only had the unrated version in single disc form. |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 17,334 |
| Posted: | | | | Well since it is a boxset (or at least set up as one)... the boxset rules says..
"If the Box Set has a rating, use it in the profile. If it does not, use NR as the rating. Exception: If any disc in the set is rated Adult, list the set as Adult"
So the parent profile would stay NR.
The child profile that is now NR would get Unrated. | | | Pete |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 17,334 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting bigdaddyhorse: Quote: Quoting Alien Redrum:
Quote: I'm going through mine now and ran across something interesting.
Beyond the Door is a two disc set with the rated version on one dvd and the unrated on another.
It is in my collection as a box set (not by me, though I understand why it is).
The parent is currently NR. The Unrated disc is NR. The Rated disc is R.
Now, to submit it, do I change the parent to "Unrated" (since it's the highest) or remove the rating altogether and re-submit it?
Secondly, I then change the child that's rated "NR" to "Unrated" and then re-submit that, is that correct?
Unrated, this part of the rule was and still is clear to me.
"For DVDs with more than one rating shown (e.g. a DVD which includes an R and Unrated version), use the highest applicable rating with the following scale:
NR < Board Rating < Unrated < Adult"
Plus that 2-disc Beyond teh Door is a special version (can't recall if it had it's own UPC or not, I think it did on the slipcover but may be wrong), most only had the unrated version in single disc form. I would agree... if it is not really a boxset. But if it is a boxset... then boxset rules for the parent profile. | | | Pete |
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Registered: August 23, 2008 | Reputation: | Posts: 1,656 |
| Posted: | | | | I think that's what's confusing me, on whether or not it's considered a box set. It has two films, same title, but different cuts.
I think no, though, as per rules (like Blade Runner and Dawn of the Dead). | | | Reviewer, HorrorTalk.com
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Registered: December 10, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 3,004 |
| Posted: | | | | I don't think theatrical rating=theatrical release. It only means rating in a theatrical rating system. |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 13,202 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Addicted2DVD: Quote: This is what I was talking about earlier... does "Adult" mean just the XXX adult movies? What about stuff like Playboy Videos and Girls Gone Wild... is that adult enough to be considered "Adult"? What about horror with a load of gore? I wouldn't show most horror movies to kids... but I wouldn't consider it needing an Adult rating on them. Though I personally would consider stuff like that play talked about earlier, Playboy videos and Girls Gone Wild as Adult. But that is me personally... what standard do we follow for contributions? Well, since we are dealing with R1 US, we should use our definition of "adult". Playboy videos and Girls Gone Wild videos are considered adult content here. Full frontal nudity is also considered adult here. While horror may not be appropriate for children, there are no laws against exposing your children to it. I can't give a kid a Playboy, now, can I? | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever. There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom. Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand. The Centauri learned this lesson once. We will teach it to them again. Though it take a thousand years, we will be free. - Citizen G'Kar |
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Registered: March 15, 2007 | Posts: 1,982 |
| Posted: | | | | It looks like a real funny mess that you (general you) have request. It seems that as usual very few had think at the real implications of this (so much will enter their personnal preferences in the database)... Next time maybe it would be better to really think before asking Ken to enforce a personal preference, hope for you (general you) he will find a better way to deal with this in the next program update. EVil Dead, Last House on the Left, Behind the Door, ... adult movies. Have fun with your mess |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 17,334 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting AESP_pres: Quote: It looks like a real funny mess that you (general you) have request. It seems that as usual very few had think at the real implications of this (so much will enter their personnal preferences in the database)...
Next time maybe it would be better to really think before asking Ken to enforce a personal preference, hope for you (general you) he will find a better way to deal with this in the next program update.
EVil Dead, Last House on the Left, Behind the Door, ... adult movies. Have fun with your mess Jimmy... Not sure what you mean... the adult genre stuff has nothing to do with the requested ratings addition. this discussion just turned into something else midway when a question came up. It is the same situation we have had for years. | | | Pete |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 6,635 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting northbloke: Quote: Quoting hal9g:
Quote: So you would sit down with your 11 year old daughter and watch this movie together?
I'm sorry, but that's just not a good way of defining an "adult" work. Would you sit down with your 11 year old daughter and watch Halloween, Evil Dead, The Exorcist? What about adult comedies like Kingpin, Knocked Up, Clerks?
Do you want all those films to have an "Adult" rating? No, but I don't want them to have NR which is the lowest rating either. | | | Hal |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 6,635 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Grendell: Quote: Quoting hal9g:
Quote: So you would sit down with your 11 year old daughter and watch this movie together?
I would be way more worried about my 11 year old daughter seeing someone shot several times than I would about her seeing a boob. We're not talking about her seeing a boob. This is full frontal male nudity. | | | Hal | | | Last edited: by hal9g |
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Registered: May 8, 2007 | Posts: 823 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting hal9g: Quote: We're not talking about her seeing a boob. This is full frontal male nudity. I would *still* rather have her see a weiner than see someone brutally murdered. | | | 99.9% of all cat plans consist only of "Step 1." |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 6,635 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Grendell: Quote: Quoting hal9g:
Quote: We're not talking about her seeing a boob. This is full frontal male nudity.
I would *still* rather have her see a weiner than see someone brutally murdered. I didn't know it was an either/or. I wouldn't want her exposed to either. | | | Hal |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 17,334 |
| Posted: | | | | Thankfully I am at the point where I really don't have to worry too much with either way any longer. But generally I agree Hal. | | | Pete |
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Registered: March 15, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 5,459 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Ace_of_Sevens: Quote: I don't think theatrical rating=theatrical release. It only means rating in a theatrical rating system. Good point Ace, I never made that distinction in the rules before. You're right, they only mention theatrical rating, not theatrical release. |
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Registered: June 21, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 2,621 |
| Posted: | | | | O.K., here's a fun one.
Ali Dircetor's Cut - UPC 043396090569
Case clearly says Unrated on back. Then before the film plays, there's the blue rating card which says R for Some Language and Brief Violence. Checked movieratings.com, and both versions are rated R for the same reasons.
So, does the cover win this for rating or do we go by reality like with runtimes and disc info/web info win? |
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Registered: March 15, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 5,459 |
| Posted: | | | | Unfortunately the rules as written don't give us the lee-way that we have with runtime etc. If it has "unrated" on the cover then it gets "unrated" regardless of anything else. But again, you don't have to submit a change. | | | Last edited: by northbloke |
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