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| Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | I see that what you are calling a difference, hal. But in reality, not a chance. Youy are omnly creating confusion...when is a screenplay not a screenplay...when hal says so. We now have a way to deal with this, through the custom credit, why would you want to pour more confusion into the it, with this is a screenplay, this screenplay is nto a screenplay.  I am not the one trying to apply to different meanings to Screenplay, hal. Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
Billy Video | | | | Last edited: by Winston Smith |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 13,201 |
| | Posted: | | | | | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
|   | T!M | | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 8,723 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMadMartian: Quote:
Thankfully, every time I have seen these types of credits, they have all been entered as OMB. Same here, I'm relieved to say.  |
| | Registered: December 10, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 3,004 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Prof. Kingsfield: Quote:
I see that what you are calling a difference, hal. But in reality, not a chance. Youy are omnly creating confusion...when is a screenplay not a screenplay...when hal says so. The correct answer is "when it's not the screenplay for the movie in question." or "When it's author is credited as 'based on a screenplay by' rather than 'screenplay by.'' It's only confusing if you're being purposefully obtuse. |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Martian: You Hal, Ace and Tim are talking about a distinction without a difference, and are trying to put a different deinition to the same terminology, when the program NOW can handle such issues quite easily. So all you are creating is chaos and confusion. A Screenplay is not sometimes a screenplay, a screenplay is always a screenplay and the program can now be used to account for the addition of Based on Screenplay without causing needless confusion among users trying to figure what the few or even the many are talking about. Forgive me , my friend, it's gibberish. And as I have said before if we entered the data as we sse it, these utterly nonsensical discussions would END. When that day comes I will be the first to cheer. The thing that shocks me the most, is that with the new program capabilities, this truly is just a distinction without a difference and yet you are arguing from a very narrow-minded viewpoint that only causes confusion.I use the custom Roles all the time, I don't use Screenwriter, I use Screenplay By because that is what the credit IS usually and guess what if I type in Based on a Screenplay By and include that in notes, so that you too can simply copy it into your local if you wish, then I don't need to worry about any silly games attempting to create two different for the SAME word, I have the REAL data. It's SIMPLE, maybe that's the problem....it's too simple. Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
Billy Video | | | | Last edited: by Winston Smith |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,480 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting T!M: Quote:
Quoting TheMadMartian:
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Thankfully, every time I have seen these types of credits, they have all been entered as OMB.
Same here, I'm relieved to say. Same here.  This is a discussion for the sake of argument and not one that's affecting real contributions, thankfully. | | | ...James
"People fake a lot of human interactions, but I feel like I fake them all, and I fake them very well. That’s my burden, I guess." ~ Dexter Morgan |
| | Registered: December 10, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,004 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Prof. Kingsfield: Quote:
Martian:
You Hal, Ace and Tim are talking about a distinction without a difference, and are trying to put a different deinition to the same terminology, when the program NOW can handle such issues quite easily. We are wanting a distinction with a difference. You are wanting no distinction with a difference unless you truly believe James DeMonaco and John Carpenter had the same job on the 2005 version of Assault on Precinct 13. You seem to be the only person who thinks distinguishing these jobs is confusing | | | | Last edited: by Ace_of_Sevens |
| | Registered: August 23, 2008 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 1,656 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Ace_of_Sevens: Quote:
Quoting Prof. Kingsfield:
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Martian:
You Hal, Ace and Tim are talking about a distinction without a difference, and are trying to put a different deinition to the same terminology, when the program NOW can handle such issues quite easily.
We are wanting a distinction with a difference. You are wanting no distinction with a difference unless you truly believe James DeMonaco and John Carpenter had the same job on the 2005 version of Assault on Precinct 13. You seem to be the only person who thinks distinguishes these jobs is confusing I don't ever want to read the argument that IMDB has bad data and Invelos' data is better on this board again if we have to start entering in John Carpenter as the screenplay writer for Rob Zombie's Halloween.  | | | Reviewer, HorrorTalk.com
"I also refuse to document CLT results and I pay my bills to avoid going to court." - Sam, keeping it real, yo. |
| | T!M | | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 8,723 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Alien Redrum: Quote:
I don't ever want to read the argument that IMDB has bad data and Invelos' data is better on this board again if we have to start entering in John Carpenter as the screenplay writer for Rob Zombie's Halloween. Certainly not from the same user... Not to worry, though: as several users have pointed out, virtually the entire community understands the matter correctly. |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Ace_of_Sevens: Quote:
Quoting Prof. Kingsfield:
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Martian:
You Hal, Ace and Tim are talking about a distinction without a difference, and are trying to put a different deinition to the same terminology, when the program NOW can handle such issues quite easily.
We are wanting a distinction with a difference. You are wanting no distinction with a difference unless you truly believe James DeMonaco and John Carpenter had the same job on the 2005 version of Assault on Precinct 13. You seem to be the only person who thinks distinguishes these jobs is confusing But Ace, you are not talking about a difference, you arer talking about no difference. Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
Billy Video |
| | Registered: September 30, 2008 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 1,805 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Ace_of_Sevens: Quote:
James DeMonaco and John Carpenter had the same job on the 2005 version of Assault on Precinct 13. Quoting Alien Redrum: Quote:
John Carpenter as the screenplay writer for Rob Zombie's Halloween. Yeah, when it's put like this, I'm not entirely sure how anyone can argue in the opposite direction unless they're arguing just for the sake of arguing. Very much puts it in perspective. | | | | The night is calling. And it whispers to me soflty come and play. |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting T!M: Quote:
Quoting Alien Redrum:
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I don't ever want to read the argument that IMDB has bad data and Invelos' data is better on this board again if we have to start entering in John Carpenter as the screenplay writer for Rob Zombie's Halloween.
Certainly not from the same user...
Not to worry, though: as several users have pointed out, virtually the entire community understands the matter correctly. Why, Alien> I have him listed under Screenwriter, because rthat si what he did. And the CUSTOM Role (I presume you understand that) says Based on the Original Screenplay By<gasp> that's the real credit and it is where it belongs.....DUH!!!! Say good night, Gracie. Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
Billy Video |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting m.cellophane: Quote:
Quoting T!M:
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Quoting TheMadMartian:
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Thankfully, every time I have seen these types of credits, they have all been entered as OMB.
Same here, I'm relieved to say.
Same here. This is a discussion for the sake of argument and not one that's affecting real contributions, thankfully. James: And I will aim this at no one in particular. It is precisely the kind of idiocy displayed in these never-ending back and forths that has been one of the major factors that has by and large stopped me from Contributing. Why it is that some here believe that some users should be discouraged from Contributing so that they can bend the Online in some perverse personal bend...I have no idea. That, and users claiming follow the rules while they don't in contributions or votes, or users whose sole interest is in inflating their Contribution counts and others who simply refuse to communicate with users in their notes...it just is not worth my time and effort. If you had asked me that a few years ago, I would have called you crazy, but here it is and it's real and as a resuklt there are hundreds of titles in my database that will NEVER see the Online by my hand. I keep trying to find reasons to Contribute and I just can't, if anything I am being driven further and further away from doing so, that's not a good thing, James. Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
Billy Video | | | | Last edited: by Winston Smith |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Merrik: Quote:
Quoting Ace_of_Sevens:
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James DeMonaco and John Carpenter had the same job on the 2005 version of Assault on Precinct 13.
Quoting Alien Redrum:
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John Carpenter as the screenplay writer for Rob Zombie's Halloween.
Yeah, when it's put like this, I'm not entirely sure how anyone can argue in the opposite direction unless they're arguing just for the sake of arguing.
Very much puts it in perspective. MerriK: The argument is very simple IF one understands the Custom role field and what power it provides. Nowif one doesn't then....I suppose. Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
Billy Video |
| | Registered: September 29, 2008 | | Posts: 384 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Prof. Kingsfield: Quote:
I keep trying to find reasons to Contribute and I just can't, if anything I am being driven further and further away from doing so, that's not a good thing, James.
Skip So is it safe to assume our screenwriter credits are safe then?  | | | | "The perfect is the enemy of the good." - Voltaire |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,201 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Merrik: Quote:
Quoting Ace_of_Sevens:
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James DeMonaco and John Carpenter had the same job on the 2005 version of Assault on Precinct 13.
Quoting Alien Redrum:
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John Carpenter as the screenplay writer for Rob Zombie's Halloween.
Yeah, when it's put like this, I'm not entirely sure how anyone can argue in the opposite direction unless they're arguing just for the sake of arguing.
Very much puts it in perspective. It does indeed. John Carpenter wrote the screenplay for 1978 version of Halloween. To enter him as the screenwriter for the 2007 version, is just plain wrong as it misrepresents the data. The fact that anybody is advocating this just boggles my mind. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
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