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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorsamuelrichardscott
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I get so tired of reading the SAME tripe with EVERY ONE of your posts...it is very boring.


Touche.

I can't believe these threads last so long.  I posted about 10 sources for DiLascio last page or 2 pages back.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorWinston Smith
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Indeed you did Sam, and excellent research I might add. Well done.

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Based upon the credit we cannot assume that Di is the article Di as there is no spacing to CLEARLY define it as such, Di Lascio for example.
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Just FYI, "Di" or "di" is not an article in Italian, it is a preposition meaning "of" or "from".

I would enter "DILASCIO" as "DiLascio" in exactly the same way that I would enter "MCMAHON" as "McMahon".  These are standard capitalizations.

Hal:
DUH!!!...Really? Give me a break, hal. I know full well the difference,  ut you had to take a shot at me, did you take a shot at Martian for the same "mistake"...NO you did not. , nor did I because it wasn't necessary, I presume that Martian has the knowledge, i don't go l;ooking for things to attack and insult someone's intelligence,but....in this case I will makean exception. Quoting the Rules, hal, "Articles (such as de, de la, di, von) are entered in the appropriate name field along with the name that they precede. Use the film credits to determine whether the actor capitalizes this article or not." Now this is a senrtence tha YOU had a hand in writing Hal, so perhaps I should turn the question upon you or perhaps ask if this is something which you just recently learned about and were attempting to show off recently acquired knowledge. Keep your insulting remarks to yourself hal.

Skip


WOW! Who pissed on your cornflakes this morning?

I'm sorry to say Skip, I see nothing insulting in Hal's post.
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Since ß is a special character with no capital letter equivalent and in the german language normally capitalized as SS the conversion from SS to ß is correct according to Kens Post in this Thread.


Thanks for helping those who have a selective memory. 

More seriouly, that example shows, once more, how rules are complicated (SS to ß : yes, C to ç : no), illogical (the gap in pronunciation is tiny between ss and ß and enormous between c and ç), and difficult to find (dozens of modifications to the "official" rules are totally lost among thousands pages of those forums).
How can anyone think that this set of rules may be followed by hundreds of people of different cultures, languages, among which some speak hardly english ???
The chance not to have a mess in the online is strictly equal to 0,00000...


Surfeur:

Please take your agenda and stuff it somewhere. I get so tired of reading the SAME tripe with EVERY ONE of your posts...it is very boring. Wec all know that you hate Rules, and believe that only YOU possess the key to all knowledge. We even understand exactly why you comer here, sincve you don't Contribute anything...anything other than rancid attotude.

Skip<shakes head sadly>


I too have begun to tire of the endless, stale diatribe. But there is no need to get nasty about it.
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I get so tired of reading the SAME tripe with EVERY ONE of your posts...it is very boring.


Touche.

I can't believe these threads last so long.  I posted about 10 sources for DiLascio last page or 2 pages back.


This should have brought an end to the "discussion", but alas, even with the smackdown you and AlienRedrum posted after that, it lingers on.

Truly sad and pathetic.
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We even understand exactly why you comer here, sincve you don't Contribute anything...anything other than rancid attotude.


One more lie...

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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorWinston Smith
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Surfeur:

Youi are thhe one who has stated that you don't contribute, not I. Now I have to wonder if you are following the Rules. You have repetedly said this over the last several years, including I believe at elast ONCE recently Oh well. At least now i understand your credibility or lack thereof. The dishonesty certainly does not lie on this side of the atlantic, maybe in France but not here. :rolleyes to paraphrase an American bumper sticker, keep on carpin', surfeur, just keep on carpin'.

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Surfeur:

Youi are thhe one who has stated that you don't contribute, not I. Now I have to wonder if you are following the Rules. You have repetedly said this over the last several years, including I believe at elast ONCE recently Oh well. At least now i understand your credibility or lack thereof. The dishonesty certainly does not lie on this side of the atlantic, maybe in France but not here. :rolleyes to paraphrase an American bumper sticker, keep on carpin', surfeur, just keep on carpin'.

LOL I notice that there are no votes on any of your Contribution...Hmmmm, makes me wonder.

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Surfeur:

Youi are thhe one who has stated that you don't contribute, not I.


You read only what you want to see :

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Until May of this year, I was used to contribute complete profiles that were not in the database. For that, I had to build a "per the rules" profile, contribute, then I modified the profile to have correct data.

Then Ken wrote that he had many very good contributors and there were no problems with contributions. So, to avoid to make twice the job, I stopped contributing and made directly correct profiles. A  few days ago, I noticed that none of the profiles I had not contributed had been put in the database (Where are the other very good contributors Ken promised ?  ). I knew that on those nine profiles, I had some data that were not correct "per the rules", but I didn't remind exactly where. That would have been a huge work to verify everything, so I deleted all cast and crew, overview, studios, and contributed just partial profiles.
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LOL I notice that there are no votes on any of your Contribution...Hmmmm, makes me wonder.
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On my 450 contributions, I don't remember having got any no votes (nor yes votes...). Which doesn't seem to be odd for first contributions. I have about 1050 DVDs, so I had to contribute nearly 1/2 to see them in the online. Pingponging is not something I really fear 
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I would have sworn that a DiLascio (for example) from a new profile would overwrite the Dilascio in an existing profile.

It doesn't.

Then it's the other way round, the new profile with correct DiLascio won't be protected but changed to the wrong Dilascio from the existing profile.

If we were case-sensitive, we would keep Dilascio and add DiLascio.
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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorTheMadMartian
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The main DB is case sensitive...kinda.  If the online has DiLascio, and you submit Dilascia, the online will be overwritten.  I am not sure why this is as the CLT and the program ignore it.
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I am not sure why this is as the CLT and the program ignore it.

That is because there's a substantial difference. Heck: per Ken's specific instructions, we're even tracking whether there's a space between two initials or not - apparently that's the level of detail Invelos means by "list names exactly as they are in the credits". Capitalization is no different, and so I personally won't take any liberties with that either. The program, as explained before, doesn't "ignore" it - instead, it's specifically designed to protect your local value (if there is one). And the CLT is just a very rudimentary, basic tool: it doesn't deal with capitalization in the same way that it doesn't deal with birth years.
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I say the program ignores the change, you say it protects your local value.  I say the CLT ignores capitalization, you say it doesn't deal with it.  I am trying to figure out what the point of your post was except to argue symantics. 
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There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
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The point is that you're trying to trivialize capitalization differences - which you really shouldn't.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorWinston Smith
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This is amazing, I have discussed this issue many times over the last two years, this is NOT a new problem and as far as I can tell the problem has not been rectified with 3.6. I have even discussed working with it, incredible. It's a new problem now because tuim has finally recognized it.    

Maybe you people should pay closer attention. <shakes head>

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Billy Video
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