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yes, the death penalty is a joke, if one is sentenced to death they get an automatic appeal, and guess who pays for that appeal, the tax payers, we also pay for each additional appeal as they climb throuigh the courts, by the time we finally kill them (an average of 18 years) it has cost us more than 3-10 times the amount it would have been if we had housed them their whole life, death is the easy way out and i want them to suffer for as long as possible, every appeal gives them hope, and if they are sentenced to life they have to appeal on their own dime.

i think they should be kill, but i also want them to suffer, and every time they appeal their in the papers and the families have to live it again and again, and the killer gets to talk to more and more reporters, and more and more dumbasses want to help them, they are no longer news when the fight for their life is taken away from them, to hell with this guy.

there are other cases that need our help:

Horry County, Myrtle Beach South Carolina
Richard Gagnom was convicted of murder;
1. a jail house snitch, Mr. Mullins, (oh brother)(snitch was out of jail soon after)
2. a small dot of blood on the Bottom of his shoe, (he was at the seen all day with the family, blood was not found any where else(clothes, car, home, etc, no where)
3. blood found at the seen was not his
4. it took 3 years to go to trial (was in jail the whole time)
5. no detectives testified, guns at the seen where not tested or finger printed, good old boys, lazy police work, don't get arrested in South Carolina

Here's some fuel for the DNA controversy.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/CRIME/07/31/alabama.execution.ap/index.html

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The Alabama Supreme Court and the 11th Circuit Court of Appeals earlier denied Arthur's bid to delay the execution so that DNA testing could be done.

Yup, my views as well.  I'm willing to bet that this "other dude" was offered some sort of benefit to take on a rap that would for all intents and purposes have no affect on his imprisonment.

Just to add my two cents on this latest development.

Surprisingly enough I have some experience with this kind of confession. There was a case in our office when I was a prosecutor where a defendant in prison for life for murder in Arkansas (and facing possible extradition for several other murders to Texas - a death penalty state) confessed to a few murders from our state (in our county). The murders he confessed to were unsolved but one of them had been solved and a defendant was serving life for the crime. The Arkansas guy had lived in our area during the time when the murders were committed and his story on most of the murders were consistent with the facts EXCEPT for the one where the guy was serving life for the crime already. The Arkansas dude was all over the place on that case - his facts were wrong etc. - but the guy serving life tried to use his story as the basis for a new trial. The judge reviewing the case ultimately ruled against his request b/c the Arkansas inmate's story was error ridden and he had told some relatives he was confessing to the various murders in an effort to avoid possible extradition to Texas.

It was a very interesting case -- they actually did a Dateline NBC about it. I remember being told that many of the ladies in our office supposedly swooned over getting to meet Stone Phillips -- he wasted the trip because we refused to comment.

In any case this kind of confession is of dubious reliability and deserves to be closely scrutinized, which this one certainly will. I can't and won't take specific issue with the Alabama Supreme Court's ruling though b/c as I have emphasized in this thread I don't like jumping to conclusions. If 5 of the justics thought this "confession" warrants further review before a irrevocable sentence (an execution) is carried out then maybe it should be looked at.

Brian

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Ohio Inmate Claims He's Too Fat to Be Executed
Monday, August 04, 2008

COLUMBUS, Ohio —  A death row inmate scheduled for execution in October says he's so fat that Ohio executioners would have trouble finding his veins and that his weight could diminish the effectiveness of one of the lethal injection drugs.

Lawyers for Richard Cooey argue in a federal lawsuit that Cooey had poor veins when he faced execution five years ago and that the problem has been worsened by weight gain.

Cooey, 41, was sentenced to die for raping and murdering two female University of Akron students in 1986. After a federal judge granted Cooey a last-minute reprieve in 2003, Cooey was returned to death row. In April, he lost a challenge to Ohio's lethal injection process when the U.S. Supreme Court said he had missed a deadline to file a lawsuit.

Cooey's attorneys cite a document filed by a prison nurse in 2003 that said Cooey had sparse veins and that executioners would need extra time.

"When you start the IV's come 15 minutes early," wrote the nurse who examined Cooey. "I don't have any veins."

The lawsuit, filed Friday in federal court in Columbus, also says prison officials have had difficulty drawing blood from Cooey for medical procedures. Cooey is 5 feet 7 inches tall and weighs 267 pounds, according to the lawsuit.

Cooey's execution is scheduled for Oct. 14. He would be the first inmate put to death in Ohio since Christopher Newton was executed last year for killing a prison cellmate over their chess games.

It would also be the first execution in Ohio since the end of an unofficial national moratorium on executions that began lV injection procedure.

Since the court upheld the procedure in April, 16 inmates have been executed around the country.

Attorneys for Cooey in his latest lawsuit say a drug he is taking for migraine headaches could diminish the effectiveness of the first of three drugs Ohio uses in its execution process.

Cooey's use of the drug Topamax, a type of seizure medication, may have created a resistance to thiopental, the drug used to put inmates to sleep before two other lethal drugs are administered, Dr. Mark Heath, a physician hired by the Ohio Public Defender's Office, said in documents filed with the court.

Heath also says Cooey's weight, combined with the potential drug resistance, increases the risk he would not be properly anesthetized.

That's a real concern for Cooey, his public defender, Kelly Culshaw Schneider, said Monday.

"All of the experts agree if the first drug doesn't work, the execution is going to be excruciating," she said.

She said the Department of Rehabilitation and Correction has not indicated how they would deal with Cooey's vein problems.

Prisons system spokeswoman Andrea Carson and Jim Gravelle, a spokesman for the Ohio Attorney General's Office, both said Monday they hadn't seen the lawsuit and couldn't comment.

Last year, Carson cited the obesity of Newton as one of the reasons prison officials had difficulty accessing his veins before his May 24 execution. Newton was 6 feet, 265 pounds.

Two years ago, convicted killer Jeffrey Lundgren argued unsuccessfully that he was at greater risk of experiencing pain and suffering because he was overweight and diabetic.

A federal appeals court rejected the claim by Lundgren, convicted of killing a family of five in an eastern Ohio cult killing. He was executed in October 2006.

In 1999, lawyers for Florida condemned killer Allen Davis, who weighed 350 pounds, argued the voltage in the electric chair fell short of the amount needed to kill painlessly, especially for a man the size of Allen.

During Allen's execution, blood poured from his face in what officials said was a nosebleed that happened after he died.

Maybe Arthur should try packing on the pounds as his next strategy!

I agree with Cooey.  He is way too fat to be executed lets strangle him like he did McCreedy.  Hanging is still on the books and justice is served.  Better yet lets give the parents of his victims a billy club, tie him with a red bandanna and let them go to work.

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Diet and exercise his ass.  Then find a vein.

Under most state laws you cannot force a prisoner to diet and exercise.  If I remember right it actually falls under cruel and unusual punishment.