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As I noted, martian,, the majority feeling did not change that under the rule  as current structured this entry did
Not comply. The majority wanted a change, ken ruled, but the only way to make it legal or prevent a similar discussion in the future is to change/modify that note..

According to Ken the majority's opinion of OMB was correct with the wording as is:

Quoting Ken Cole:

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In related news, based on the information posted here, OMB is appropriate for this credit.

He further stated that the note could stay as is, but he was open to amending it:

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If this is a rare condition and the note is otherwise helpful, it should stay.  However, I'm open to removing or changing the note if it gets in the way more often than it helps.

Quoting Winston Smith:

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As I noted, martian,, the majority feeling did not change that under the rule  as current structured this entry did
Not comply. The majority wanted a change, ken ruled,

Clearly we are reading two different threads here as nobody wanted a change.  The majority believed that OMB was the correct entry for this credit.  Ken seems to have agreed as he said, and I quote, "In related news, based on the information posted here, OMB is appropriate for this credit."

Note he did not say that he was making an exception or a change, only that OMB was appropriate...meaning it did comply.  How you can read that any other way is beyond me.

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but the only way to make it legal or prevent a similar discussion in the future is to change/modify that note..

As I already noted, per Ken, it is 'legal' and in line with why "Based on ____ By" was added.  The note needs to be removed, not because it makes these types of credits 'illegal', but because it leads to these types of threads...meaning it gets in the way more often than it helps.

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Yea, I don't agree as elements of Alien were adapted for use in this film.

There's a difference between adapting elements and adapting a story. Elements of Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter were adapted from real life, such as the fact that Lincoln was president during the Civil War, but that doesn't mean it's a biopic. To use another example, Marley and Me is an adaptation of the book of the same name, which was in turn adapted from real life. Marley and Me: The Puppy Years is adapted from elements of that book, like the idea of a golden retriever named Marley who belonged to the Grogan family, but it is not an adaptation of that book. In the common meaning of the word, Prometheus would only be an adaptation of Alien if it were a remake. It's a prequel, so it's clearly not. That's why the credits that it's adapted from elements of Alien rather than saying it's adapted from Alien. There are plenty of fuzzy lines between adaptation and new works using a few concepts from the original, such as Dawn of the Dead, Planet of the Apes, Mean Girls and Syriana, but this isn't one of them

Quoting Winston Smith:

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As I noted Marian. Kens ruling aside. With the note, the majority simply supported ignoring the rule. As I stated tken, without removal  or modification I do not understand the logic of kens ruling with the modification of Caleb it is clear. Kens ruling will not prevent the topic from returning inn out potagain, I would hope calebs modification would prevent a similar discussion.

I am sorry to be blunt here, but your understanding is not required.  The majority believed it was allowed by the rules and Ken confirmed that belief.  As far as I am concerned, the issue is settled.

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There's a difference between adapting elements and adapting a story. Elements of Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter were adapted from real life, such as the fact that Lincoln was president during the Civil War, but that doesn't mean it's a biopic. To use another example, Marley and Me is an adaptation of the book of the same name, which was in turn adapted from real life. Marley and Me: The Puppy Years is adapted from elements of that book, like the idea of a golden retriever named Marley who belonged to the Grogan family, but it is not an adaptation of that book. In the common meaning of the word, Prometheus would only be an adaptation of Alien if it were a remake. It's a prequel, so it's clearly not. That's why the credits that it's adapted from elements of Alien rather than saying it's adapted from Alien. There are plenty of fuzzy lines between adaptation and new works using a few concepts from the original, such as Dawn of the Dead, Planet of the Apes, Mean Girls and Syriana, but this isn't one of them

Look, you're not going to convince me and, clearly, I am not going to convince you.  Bottom line, to prevent future arguments, to help rather than hinder, and to give us what was wanted back when "Based on ____ By" was added to the crew chart, the notes have to be removed.

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Quoting Winston Smith:

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As I noted Marian. Kens ruling aside. With the note, the majority simply supported ignoring the rule. As I stated tken, without removal  or modification I do not understand the logic of kens ruling with the modification of Caleb it is clear. Kens ruling will not prevent the topic from returning inn out potagain, I would hope calebs modification would prevent a similar discussion.

I am sorry to be blunt here, but your understanding is not required.  The majority believed it was allowbythe rules and Ken confirmed that belief.  As far as I am concerned, the issue is settled.

And it is precisely that attitude that causes the problems. Martian, we at least agree on removal of the notes.

Let me give u an example of the problem. People had possessives removed not for any logical reason, they just didn't like them and ken gave into them. Now we have a movie ,  WZilliam Shakespeare's Hamlet. Now the movies only writing credit belongs to Kenneth brannagh, no other writing credit. We can't use the possessive and the credit block says Hamlet. So one of the greatest stories ever sees no credit given to its author except via the possessive and we can't use it...positively brilliant. Now needless to say I usr the possessive locally and I am fine with that, but that doesn't mean I don't get a little angry  when I think about it, or when you cop that attitude of yours. As I have noted the logic escapes me, and several users have sort of echoed the same sentiment remove or modify the note. Modify is preferable to removal, I think out and out removal is very risky.

Now I try hard to be nice and try to help, but then somebody comes along with what reads as shut up skip, you don't count. I have a two word respnse to that attitude.

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...Now I try hard to be nice and try to help, but then somebody comes along with what reads as shut up skip, you don't count. I have a two word respnse to that attitude.

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These pointless posts are going to have to go, or we will be forced to take admin actions.

I have no problem if Ken deems my posts worthy of administrative action.

As far as your stance in this thread is concerned - you were wrong - the owner of the program has said so.

Why can't you just accept the fact that even you are capable of making a mistake?

No, you continue to defend yourself, your position and even twist the facts so that you and your views seemed to be correct.

How is that being nice? Or helpful?

So yes Skip, I did quote you. And Ken's post. I feel your continued behavior required those responses.