Welcome to the Invelos forums. Please read the forum rules before posting.

Read access to our public forums is open to everyone. To post messages, a free registration is required.

If you have an Invelos account, sign in to post.

    Invelos Forums->DVD Profiler: Contribution Discussion Page: 1... 3 4 5 6 7 ...12  Previous   Next
Em-dash heads-up (Causing erroneous contributions)
Author Message
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorAddicted2DVD
Registered: March 13, 2007
Reputation: Highest Rating
United States Posts: 17,334
Posted:
PM this userEmail this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
It is as simple as I like for it to be exact as possible to the back cover.... and the rules calls for it to be exact as possible per the cover. Between that and Ken giving us the buttons shows me that is what he wants.

You may feel like... something is close enough. But if I am going to contribute and vote... I am going to make it as close to exact as the program allows. As that is what the rules calls for.

To me nothing is close enough... if I have the ability to get it closer. And the rules ask me to do so.... so that is the only way I will do it.
Pete
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantGrendell
One disc at a time...
Registered: May 8, 2007
United States Posts: 824
Posted:
PM this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Match the overview exactly. There are nice buttons where you can use en and em dashes. What could be easier?

Of course, it is of no surprise whatsoever that there is a 5 page thread in the DVD Profiler contribution forums with people arguing about it with each other.
99.9% of all cat plans consist only of "Step 1."
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorateo357
Registered: December 27, 2009
Reputation: Highest Rating
United States Posts: 5,131
Posted:
PM this userDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting Grendell:
Quote:
Match the overview exactly. There are nice buttons where you can use en and em dashes. What could be easier?

Of course, it is of no surprise whatsoever that there is a 5 page thread in the DVD Profiler contribution forums with people arguing about it with each other.


This is what you get , when this is all some members have to look forward to in life. Addicted change it in your personal, lock it and move on. That is what I do (Hong Kong films, CLT result names that are wrong) Contribute once if they vote no and it gets turned down, that's life.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorGSyren
Profiling since 2001
Registered: March 14, 2007
Reputation: Highest Rating
Sweden Posts: 4,678
Posted:
PM this userVisit this user's homepageView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting Addicted2DVD:
Quote:
It is as simple as I like for it to be exact as possible to the back cover....

Well, the rules also state that you shouldn't include line-break hyphens. So clearly Ken's intention is not to replicate the look of the overview exactly as on the cover, but rather the information content.
My freeware tools for DVD Profiler users.
Gunnar
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorAddicted2DVD
Registered: March 13, 2007
Reputation: Highest Rating
United States Posts: 17,334
Posted:
PM this userEmail this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
What you are talking about is an exception to the exactly per source rule that we have... but yet which dash to use is not listed as an exception... so that tells me that we use the same dash the source uses.

I am sorry... but this is something that no other member of the site can convince me otherwise on. The only ones that could would be Invelos themselves.
Pete
DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar Contributorhal9g
Who is John Galt?
Registered: March 13, 2007
Reputation: High Rating
United States Posts: 6,635
Posted:
PM this userEmail this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Pete...it's not worth your time.  Some people will argue just for the sake of arguing!
Hal
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorAddicted2DVD
Registered: March 13, 2007
Reputation: Highest Rating
United States Posts: 17,334
Posted:
PM this userEmail this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Yeah... I know. It is a sad thing.

Agree with me... don't agree with me.

Get it... don't get it.

either way... I am done with this thread. The changes are contributed. I have all yes votes now. So as far as I am concerned... it is over.
Pete
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorGSyren
Profiling since 2001
Registered: March 14, 2007
Reputation: Highest Rating
Sweden Posts: 4,678
Posted:
PM this userVisit this user's homepageView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
I'm not trying to convince anyone. I'm just trying to get an explanation as to why this seems to be of such an importance that we need a heads up in order to avoid "erroneous contributions".

It seems like some people think it's the end of the world as we know it if someone contributes an overview with a hyphen instead of an en-dash or em-dash.

So tell me - if I can't see the difference between dash, en-dash and em-dash in an overview, can I use just dash, or should I leave the overview blank?
My freeware tools for DVD Profiler users.
Gunnar
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantAlien Redrum
Proudly blocked by liars.
Registered: August 23, 2008
Reputation: High Rating
United States Posts: 1,656
Posted:
PM this userVisit this user's homepageView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
at a five page debate on dashes. This forum is retarded. 
Reviewer, HorrorTalk.com

"I also refuse to document CLT results and I pay my bills to avoid going to court." - Sam, keeping it real, yo.
DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorBad Father
Registered: July 23, 2001
Registered: March 13, 2007
Posts: 4,596
Posted:
PM this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting Alien Redrum:
Quote:
at a five page debate on dashes. This forum is retarded. 


Quoting Alien Redrum:
Quote:
at a five page debate on dashes. This forum is retarded. 


And yet you keep adding to it...
My WebGenDVD online Collection
DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorTheMadMartian
Alien with an attitude
Registered: March 13, 2007
Reputation: Highest Rating
United States Posts: 13,202
Posted:
PM this userEmail this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting GSyren:
Quote:
I'm not trying to convince anyone. I'm just trying to get an explanation as to why this seems to be of such an importance that we need a heads up in order to avoid "erroneous contributions".

Only the OP knows why he thought it was of such importance.  I believe the only reason Pete responded, and I am sure he will correct me if I am wrong, is because his contributions were being called into question and he was being told that they were incorrect.
Quote:
It seems like some people think it's the end of the world as we know it if someone contributes an overview with a hyphen instead of an en-dash or em-dash.

The only person who seemed to think that ways was the OP.  All I saw Pete doing was defending his right to contribute the correct dash.  I think he may have misunderstood your position thinking you were telling him he shouldn't.  Again, that is how I saw it, Pete can correct me if I am wrong.
Quote:
So tell me - if I can't see the difference between dash, en-dash and em-dash in an overview, can I use just dash, or should I leave the overview blank?

I would say to enter what you see.  If it ends up being incorrect, the person who discovers it is always free to correct it.
No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorMikaLove
Knowledge is Power
Registered: May 2, 2009
Reputation: High Rating
Posts: 490
Posted:
PM this userVisit this user's homepageView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
DAMN this forum with it's encoding. I had written again a huge amount of good text and it was erased because it "took too long" to post it. And of course I had forgotten that it works this LOUSY way, that I should write the text in notepad or sth and then copy/paste/post.

Anyway, I need to cut it real short now. I have more important things to tend to.

I think this whole issue is about mutual respect for that people are from different parts of the world, and not just one country

We simply need and have to respect each other and where we come from rather than imposing things on each other that are very unfamiliar and strange to them.

I'm too p*ssed now with my large post disintegrating because the lousy programming of this forum, so I'll just say this. I think you need to think further about this issue than just point to Ken, who is one person and who, I bet, has no clue about European grammar.
WE are the community, and it is multicultural.
 Last edited: by MikaLove
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorLewis_Prothero
Strength Through Unity
Registered: May 19, 2007
Reputation: Superior Rating
Germany Posts: 6,730
Posted:
PM this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quote:
I had written again a huge amount of good text and it was erased because it "took too long" to post it.


Two possibilities to solve this:
1) At Login choose permanent Login
2) If you forgot to choose option 1): Use the back-key of your browser when the error message appears. Right-click on any of the buttons of the Invelos site and choose "Open in new Tab". Login on the new tab, return to the tab with your message and send it.
It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?


Registrant since 05/22/2003
 Last edited: by Lewis_Prothero
DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar Contributorhal9g
Who is John Galt?
Registered: March 13, 2007
Reputation: High Rating
United States Posts: 6,635
Posted:
PM this userEmail this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting MikaLove:
Quote:
F*CK this forum with it's encoding. I had written again a huge amount of good text and it was erased because it "took too long" to post it. And of course I had forgotten that it works this LOUSY way, that I should write the text in notepad or sth and then copy/paste/post.

Anyway, I need to cut it real short now. I have more important things to tend to.

I think this whole issue is about mutual respect for that people are from different parts of the world, and not just one country

We simply need and have to respect each other and where we come from rather than imposing things on each other that are very unfamiliar and strange to them.

I'm too p*ssed now with my large post disintegrating because the lousy programming of this forum, so I'll just say this. I think you need to think further about this issue than just point to Ken, who is one person and who, I bet, has no clue about European grammar.
WE are the community, and it is multicultural.


Sorry, but I'm not getting this.  This was started about a Region 1, U.S. locality overview, so naturally, the person writing the overview was probably American and the person entering the overview was probably American, so use of en-dashes or en-dashes is quite common.....and correct.

If you are entering an overview for Region 2, Swedish locality, and because of your "culture" en-dashes and em-dashes aren't used, it's a non-issue for you.  However, if they are used, then they should be entered as such in DVDP.

Pete put it as simply as it can be put.  Match what is on the back cover!  This has nothing to do with respecting people from different parts of the world.  If you don't care to use en-dashes or em-dashes, fine!  But, don't be surprised or upset when someone else corrects them or votes no if you change them incorrectly.
Hal
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorAddicted2DVD
Registered: March 13, 2007
Reputation: Highest Rating
United States Posts: 17,334
Posted:
PM this userEmail this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting TheMadMartian:
Quote:
Quoting GSyren:
Quote:
I'm not trying to convince anyone. I'm just trying to get an explanation as to why this seems to be of such an importance that we need a heads up in order to avoid "erroneous contributions".

Only the OP knows why he thought it was of such importance.  I believe the only reason Pete responded, and I am sure he will correct me if I am wrong, is because his contributions were being called into question and he was being told that they were incorrect.
Quote:
It seems like some people think it's the end of the world as we know it if someone contributes an overview with a hyphen instead of an en-dash or em-dash.

The only person who seemed to think that ways was the OP.  All I saw Pete doing was defending his right to contribute the correct dash.  I think he may have misunderstood your position thinking you were telling him he shouldn't.  Again, that is how I saw it, Pete can correct me if I am wrong.
Quote:
So tell me - if I can't see the difference between dash, en-dash and em-dash in an overview, can I use just dash, or should I leave the overview blank?

I would say to enter what you see.  If it ends up being incorrect, the person who discovers it is always free to correct it.


I was going to stay away from this thread since my last post... but curiosity got the better of me this afternoon. So I just wanted to say the Martian is correct with what he said above. While I did make some mistakes in the contribution... the EM-dashes weren't any of the mistakes I made. And the mistakes I did make has since been corrected.
Pete
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorAddicted2DVD
Registered: March 13, 2007
Reputation: Highest Rating
United States Posts: 17,334
Posted:
PM this userEmail this userView this user's DVD collectionDirect link to this postReply with quote
Quoting hal9g:
Quote:
Quoting MikaLove:
Quote:
F*CK this forum with it's encoding. I had written again a huge amount of good text and it was erased because it "took too long" to post it. And of course I had forgotten that it works this LOUSY way, that I should write the text in notepad or sth and then copy/paste/post.

Anyway, I need to cut it real short now. I have more important things to tend to.

I think this whole issue is about mutual respect for that people are from different parts of the world, and not just one country

We simply need and have to respect each other and where we come from rather than imposing things on each other that are very unfamiliar and strange to them.

I'm too p*ssed now with my large post disintegrating because the lousy programming of this forum, so I'll just say this. I think you need to think further about this issue than just point to Ken, who is one person and who, I bet, has no clue about European grammar.
WE are the community, and it is multicultural.


Sorry, but I'm not getting this.  This was started about a Region 1, U.S. locality overview, so naturally, the person writing the overview was probably American and the person entering the overview was probably American, so use of en-dashes or en-dashes is quite common.....and correct.

If you are entering an overview for Region 2, Swedish locality, and because of your "culture" en-dashes and em-dashes aren't used, it's a non-issue for you.  However, if they are used, then they should be entered as such in DVDP.

Pete put it as simply as it can be put.  Match what is on the back cover!  This has nothing to do with respecting people from different parts of the world.  If you don't care to use en-dashes or em-dashes, fine!  But, don't be surprised or upset when someone else corrects them or votes no if you change them incorrectly.


exactly... has nothing to do with respect in any way. Just to do with following the rules exactly as written.
Pete
    Invelos Forums->DVD Profiler: Contribution Discussion Page: 1... 3 4 5 6 7 ...12  Previous   Next