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Color of Money voters, can you check your discs? (Anamorphic or Non?) (Locked) |
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Registered: September 30, 2008 | Reputation: | Posts: 1,805 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Alien Redrum: Quote: Quoting Mithi:
Quote: PS Ken, and or Forum-Moderator: could you please ban this annoying person, this time maybe even for good? Pretty please with loads of sugar on top?
WILL NOT HAPPEN EVER.
I find it fascinating that the submission hasn't been retracted, which only goes to show that Skippy is knowingly submitting bad data into the database.
Wow. I noticed that too. Checked to see if the submission was retracted after this shiitake mushroom hit the fan last night, and shocker of all shocks... it's still up for approval. Meaning exactly what you've said: He's knowingly submitting bad data into the database (and lying about it in his contribution notes as well). Someone who 100% knowingly submits incorrect and bad data into the system should absolutely, at the VERY least, have their contribution privileges suspended for a good chunk of time (and really, how are you supposed to trust that person ever again?) I'm all for giving second chances if someone makes a mistake. We've all done it. You fix it, withdraw it, move on, whatever. But to continue to keep the incorrect contribution up for approval after it's PROVEN incorrect to prove some kind of point is ridiculous and obviously that person can't be trusted to submit information into the system. | | | The night is calling. And it whispers to me soflty come and play. |
| Registered: September 30, 2008 | Reputation: | Posts: 1,805 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting m.cellophane: Quote: Quoting Mithi:
Quote: PS Ken, and or Forum-Moderator: could you please ban this annoying person, this time maybe even for good? Pretty please with loads of sugar on top? I opened a support ticket. That's what Ken advised us to do if we saw someone submitting IMDb data. Seems similar enough to me. | | | The night is calling. And it whispers to me soflty come and play. |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 6,635 |
| Posted: | | | | The contribution has now disappeared.
It was declined by the screeners. Thank goodness! | | | Hal | | | Last edited: by hal9g |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 21,610 |
| Posted: | | | | All that says, all too sadly hal, is that is perfectly OK for both you and the Contributor to ignore the Rules. A true pity, that we have do have undocumented data and people like youi will claim that it is correct, a truE SHAME INDEED. Certainly not something for you to be proud of, I hope that this will change your attitude towards your voting, but I doubt it. | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!! CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it. Outta here
Billy Video |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 6,635 |
| Posted: | | | | Most importantly, we have correct data.
Something you obviously do not care about. You're more concerned about contribution notes than the data itself. I find that rather twisted. | | | Hal | | | Last edited: by hal9g |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 21,610 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting m.cellophane: Quote: Submitting data that you know is wrong just to prove a point about the quality of prior contribution notes is an abuse of the contribution privilege. Period. WRONG, changing data without documentation is against the Rules, voting yes to such a Contribution is likewise against the Rules and approval of same while a mistake by the screeners should never have happened, very simple. But that's fine I am willing to forgo Contributing when such behavior and garbage data is permitted, ignoring the Rules completely | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!! CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it. Outta here
Billy Video |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 21,610 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting hal9g: Quote: Most importantly, we have correct data.
Something you obviously do not care about. You're more concerned about contribution notes than the data itself. I find that rather twisted. No, you don't hal. Only in your own addled mind is it correct. it is undocumented and therefore NOT correct. | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!! CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it. Outta here
Billy Video |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 6,635 |
| Posted: | | | | It is time for me to stop feeding the troll.
Over and out! | | | Hal |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 21,610 |
| Posted: | | | | Are you talking about yourself again, hal? Bottom line here is that we have no Rules any longer, I am only interested in hearing what Ken has to say in defending and indefensible position. So, Ken, we have Rules or we do not...which is it. You also permit personal insults and attacks on some users, while not on others, your system displays only inequity.and failure to ab9ide by the Rules | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!! CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it. Outta here
Billy Video |
| Registered: September 18, 2008 | Reputation: | Posts: 2,650 |
| Posted: | | | | Documentation was there by way of visually looking. I can tell on my set-up if a disc is non-anamorphic just by watching also. |
| Registered: September 30, 2008 | Reputation: | Posts: 1,805 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting hal9g: Quote: The contribution has now disappeared.
It was declined by the screeners. Thank goodness! | | | The night is calling. And it whispers to me soflty come and play. |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 21,610 |
| Posted: | | | | Ooooo, really, Sam. Sorry my friend, I am not buying that as documentation, especially after Alien was so completely clueless about the most basic of tools, let alone some of the more sophisticated ones. As I noted four out of five of the tools I use indicate that the movie is 16 x ( (Anamorphic) not 4 X 3 (letterboxed). If you don't even understand the tools and how to use them, you expect me to trust your eyes...not happening, my friend. Sorry | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!! CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it. Outta here
Billy Video |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 21,610 |
| Posted: | | | | BTW hal, since you are so free with the slanderous comments. The only liar here is you since you completely ignored the Rules and voted yes to a Contribution with inadequate documentation and you are still trying to spin your incorrect vote as correct. | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!! CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it. Outta here
Billy Video |
| Registered: September 18, 2008 | Reputation: | Posts: 2,650 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Winston Smith: Quote: As I noted four out of five of the tools I use indicate that the movie is 16 x ( (Anamorphic) not 4 X 3 (letterboxed). If you don't even understand the tools and how to use them, you expect me to trust your eyes...not happening, my friend. Sorry I just stuck my copy in, and visually it's non-anamorphic. DVD Decrypter also says it is non-anamorphic. http://www.dvdauthority.com/reviews.asp?ReviewID=1681 They say "Ok, not once, not twice, but three times it's labeled on the box "Enhanced for 16 x 9 televisions (once on the sticker). Wouldn't it be great if Disney would actually take an old print of a movie and make a new anamorphic transfer? Well, they don't." http://dvdmg.com/colorofmoney.shtml They say "The Color of Money appears in its original theatrical aspect ratio of 1.85:1 on this single-sided, dual-layered DVD; the image has not been enhanced for 16X9 televisions." http://www.currentfilm.com/dvdreviews/colorofmoneydvd.html They say: "Buena Vista screws up once more(which makes that what...5 or 6 discs they've mislabled or had an error in some form on?), labeling the box as having a 16x9 anamorphic transfer, when the actual disc is a dissapointing non anamorphic one." Methinks YOU are the one who doesn't know how to use his tools. |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 21,610 |
| Posted: | | | | Hardly, pal. But appreciate your looking. As I said those notes were OLD, and I didn't look to see where they came from because it wasn't relevant. My only concern was that the existing data was not properly documented at all, if it's correct all well and good but the fact remains that the data has not been properly documented relative to the user's notes, had he properly documented it I would have happily voted yes. Nor did i bring the subject here, a user did who ignored the Rules and voted yes to undocumented data, the keyword being undocumented, meaning in this case not supported by any evidence other than the user's own claim. As I said earlier had the OP or Hal or anyone else wanted to replace the data I submitted with a data change and proper documentation 5then I would vote yes, As I said had the OP or Hal replaced my data with proper documentation then I would have voted yes, but the prior Contribution contained no supporting documentation only eSSENTIALLY "IT IS BECAUSE i SAY IT IS". I cannot and will not ever vote yes to undocumented data. it's in the Rules, very simply and because someone manages to get improperly documented data approved does not make it correct, it remains undocumented data, which may or may not be correct. All I want is to see the documentation not some users claim, that's why we have the Rules and if we aren't going to follow them then we have a near worthless system.
Kathy had requested that I come off the bench, so I did and also got slammed for doing so by her. So I will happily sit back down on the bench and go back to not Contributing especially when we the users and the screeners are permitted to ignore the Rules. I have zero tolerance for it and simply will not support it and I am very curious what Ken has to say, if anything, on the matter. | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!! CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it. Outta here
Billy Video |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 6,635 |
| Posted: | | | | Just to be clear, the only contribution that I was concerned about was the one that was submitted by Skip just a couple of days ago. I have no idea where he gets his information from, but, I never voted on the previous contribution which correctly changed this film to non-anamorphic. The only contribution I voted on was the one Skip submitted in which he was attempting to change the aspect ratio FROM non-anamorphic TO 16:9 anamorphic. His contribution notes said, and I quote: Quoting Skip: Quote: Correcting unsourced change to Video Format. Previous Contributor offered absolutely no support that it is not Anamorphic, just an undocumented claim. One which is not supported by DVDDecrypter, which doe show it as Anamorphic
Note for Alien Red...HUH? What are you going on about. DvddECRYPTER, dvdsHRIN and POWERDVD all see this as 16X9 anamorphic His notes state twice that DVDDecrypter shows this to be anamorphic. Others have provided concrete evidence that DVDDecrypter, in fact, shows that it is non-anamorphic. His notes also state that dvdsHRIN (sic) and POWERDVD also see this as 16X9 anamorphic. I have both of these tools and PowerDVD says it is 4:3 Letterbox. DVDShrink does not report on aspect ratio at all. Based on the above information, I voted "No" on Skip's contribution. All I knew is that HIS contribution was incorrect. I did not attempt to determine where the current data came from. That is irrelevant to me. My only concern is whether the contribution I am voting on at the moment is correct or not. In this case, the contribution was not correct, since the film is clearly non-anamorphic. Simple. | | | Hal |
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