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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorsnarbo
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Well I hope all you yes voters are now happy to completely ruin the Rules in regards to pushing to allow hybrid covers into the on-line.

I for one will not allow this crap into my local.

Ken. You best update you Rules to let people know that they can create their own covers for your on-line instead of the covers as supplied with the actual released DVD's.


@Astrakan.

I doubt if this title has gone OP yet, considering its release date, as for amazon.co.uk, I can't vouch for them but one or two shops in my local vicinity still have copies for sale.
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I'm happy to report that these covers were approved today.

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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributordee1959jay
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@ Astrakan:
The Limited Steelbook edition indeed seems to be largely OOP now. Check here.
However the regular 2-disc edition is still widely available (although not from Amazon UK themselves).
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I'm happy to report that these covers were approved today.

As they should be, of course, because (a) they were a significant improvement over the previous images, and (b) they were a more accurate representation of what the actual cover looks like.

That, and only that, is what counts, as far as I'm concerned. Here's a tip for the contributor: next time, just stay silent about how you obtained these images. My guess is that if you'd have stated nothing more than something like "Improved images", you'd have attracted substantially fewer no-votes - probably none at all...
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Ken. You best update you Rules to let people know that they can create their own covers for your on-line instead of the covers as supplied with the actual released DVD's.

This case does not open the database for custom covers. The goal is still to get the look of the original cover as close as possible.
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Here's a tip for the contributor: next time, just stay silent about how you obtained these images. My guess is that if you'd have stated nothing more than something like "Improved images", you'd have attracted substantially fewer no-votes - probably none at all...

Bad tip! You're probably right about the votes. But we should not sacrifice documentation in order to "sneak" in data. IMO the discussion and result of this discussion has been worth it.
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Bad tip!

But an accurate one, right? Look, I understand where you're coming from, but that really is the only way to force people to judge the images on their merits, instead of grasping at technicalities in order to "justify" a no-vote.

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You're probably right about the votes.

There you go. I just believe that the contributor has gotten an unjustly amount of flack for going out of his way to provide the community with a set of wonderful images. I feel the way he's treated might not exactly encourage him do submit more of his work, and I feel that would be our loss. Therefore, it seemed appropriate to offer what seems to be an "easy way out".

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But we should not sacrifice documentation in order to "sneak" in data.

Images shouldn't have to be "documented". As I said: either they're a significant improvement over what was there before, and an accurate representation of the actual cover, or they're not. If they are, they should be welcomed into the database; if they're not, then the current images should prevail. It's no more difficult than that. Keep in mind that not explaining how these images came to be isn't lying, or anything like that. It just forces the voters to judge them on their own merits, and not on anything else. It's not "sneaking in": people get to speak out on whether the images are accurate, and whether they're an improvement. Only if they are, they get in. I don't consider that "sneaking" at all.

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IMO the discussion and result of this discussion has been worth it.

That I could agree with, if - and here it comes - if this would mean that the people now voted "no" will have actually learned something from this, and not vote "no" for the same reason the next time this occurs. If, however, nobody changes their tune, and the contributor has to go through this ordeal every time he tries to submit significantly better images obtained like this, then it hasn't been worth it, I'm afraid. If that's the case, and I expect so, then I still stand by my earlier suggestion.
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Ken. You best update you Rules to let people know that they can create their own covers for your on-line instead of the covers as supplied with the actual released DVD's.


There's no need to update the rules. They allow for doing what TwelveMonkeys did, which is to create an image that is a much better representation of the actual cover than what was already in the database. I'm making this statement based on the photo you yourself posted on page 2.

In that photo you can clearly see the dots on the face are much more white than they are black, just like in the new image. Not only that, the big circular sticker is now gone, and the colours are a much closer representation of the slip cover than the much too dark existing scan.

Question: Had you not known how the image was created, would you have voted no? If you would have, what would you have written in your comments?

Dee1959jay: Thanks for the link to find-dvd.co.uk.
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Glad I could help, Astrakan!
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I have to agree with RHo, we should not be encouraging users to be, shall we say, less than honest in their contribution notes.  If it is allowed for image contributions, why not allow it for any contribution?

That being said, this acceptance bothers me as it is inconsistant.  I contributed a front image for Couples Retreat.  The image was an exact match to the cover...and had the added benefit of no sticker on the front...but was declined due to two 'no' votes that stated it wasn't a scan of the actual cover.  Either we want the actual cover, or an accurate representation.  We can't always have both and, yes, it should be spelled out in the rules.
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