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Title question: "Terminator Salvation" or "Terminator: Salvation"
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Invelos Software, Inc. RepresentativeGerri Cole
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Hal is correct. The only time to use the credit block is with possessives.
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Thanks Gerri...
Possessives only is how I always thought it was supposed to be as well
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Hal is correct. The only time to use the credit block is with possessives.


We need some standard. If we don't use the credit block, how do we make the determination? Line/font changes don't always mean a colon. See the following:





We don't enter "Knockaround: Guys," "Beverly Hills: Cop," or "There's: Something: More: About: Mary." We need some standard to differentiate and credit block makes sense for the same reason it did with possessives. This also applies to other title ambiguities, like the dash in "X-Files."
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Those are also not "episodic" films.

Are you really struggling with how to make this determination, or playing devil's advocate?
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Hal is correct on his point. None of the films in your post are part of a series or consider various episodes of a movie. If you have others you have questions on, feel free to ask.
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Batman Begins, at the time of its release anyway wasn't really part of a series, unless you are considering Batman films in general a series. In the case of Terminator Salvation, the other movies aren't called Terminator: Judgment Day or Terminator: Rise of the Machines, so it's not part of a pattern of series naming.
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Funny I have all 3 previous Terminator movies... and they are listed as

- The Terminator (027616914903)
- Terminator 2: Judgment Day (012236044109)
- Terminator 3: Rise of the Machine (085392772322)

Just as they should be
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Funny I have all 3 Terminator movies... and they are listed as

- The Terminator (027616914903)
- Terminator 2: Judgment Day (012236044109)
- Terminator 3: Rise of the Machine (085392772322)

Just as they should be


If it were Terminator 4: Salvation, it would follow this pattern and should be written that way, but it isn't.
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I don't see the fact that they decided not to use a number mean anything. So they started with a number and then stopped. No different then the Star Trek titles.
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I don't see the fact that they decided not to use a number mean anything. So they started with a number and then stopped. No different then the Star Trek titles.


The Star Trek titles are never written in text without a colon and make no grammatical sense without one. For series examples, we don't write "Herbie: Rides Again," "Herbie: Goes Bananas," "Analyze: This," Analyze: That," or to get into porn titles, "The Violation of: Aurora Snow" and "The Violation of: Brianna Banks."
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I don't see the fact that they decided not to use a number mean anything. So they started with a number and then stopped. No different then the Star Trek titles.


The Star Trek titles are never written in text without a colon and make no grammatical sense without one. For series examples, we don't write "Herbie: Rides Again," "Herbie: Goes Bananas," "Analyze: This," Analyze: That," or to get into porn titles, "The Violation of: Aurora Snow" and "The Violation of: Brianna Banks."


Kudos for working Herbie and Aurora Snow in the same paragraph, and still be on topic. 
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That don't change my opinion at all. You can go through titles from now till doomsday. And I for one will not sit here and go through them all with you. I am perfectly happy that we got a clarification from Gerri. We do not use the credit block for anything except possessives and if you are really not sure about a title you are working on ask here on the forum.

Maybe someone else will play the guessing game with all the titles with you. But I myself... I am going to go watch a DVD.
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I don't see the fact that they decided not to use a number mean anything. So they started with a number and then stopped. No different then the Star Trek titles.


The Star Trek titles are never written in text without a colon and make no grammatical sense without one. For series examples, we don't write "Herbie: Rides Again," "Herbie: Goes Bananas," "Analyze: This," Analyze: That," or to get into porn titles, "The Violation of: Aurora Snow" and "The Violation of: Brianna Banks."

Ace:

I am not going to reveal what my opinion is or even if I have one. I will say I can see BOTH sides of it. I will also say that you are on the wrong end of this one according to the poll, as I see the poll right now. Your argument appears essentially moot.

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That don't change my opinion at all. You can go through titles from now till doomsday. And I for one will not sit here and go through them all with you. I am perfectly happy that we got a clarification from Gerri. We do not use the credit block for anything except possessives and if you are really not sure about a title you are working on ask here on the forum.

Maybe someone else will play the guessing game with all the titles with you. But I myself... I am going to go watch a DVD.


We didn't really get a clarification from Gerri. She said not to use the credit block, but that doesn't answer the question at hand.
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I don't see the fact that they decided not to use a number mean anything. So they started with a number and then stopped. No different then the Star Trek titles.


The Star Trek titles are never written in text without a colon and make no grammatical sense without one. For series examples, we don't write "Herbie: Rides Again," "Herbie: Goes Bananas," "Analyze: This," Analyze: That," or to get into porn titles, "The Violation of: Aurora Snow" and "The Violation of: Brianna Banks."


Once again, the covers of these titles show it on a single line with no font changes.

So the criteria is very straight forward:

1.  The film must be part of a series of films starting with the same title
2.  The Cover must display the main title on one line and the subtitle on a second line using a different size font

If you  have any other examples you'd like to question, please feel free to post them.
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Kudos for working Herbie and Aurora Snow in the same paragraph, and still be on topic. 

I have to admit, that made me chuckle.
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