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Registered: March 14, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 171 |
| Posted: | | | | Maybe the best approach is to do what most contributors do... Contribute and completely ignore PMs and the forum.
The frustration seems to come from trying to make things better and help the community. But that seems to just stir up the vocal minority, it doesn't seem to help resolve the ongoing problems.
Sorry to see you go. I would like to think you may reconsider after taking a break, but I don't think the atmosphere is going to change much around here. |
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Registered: March 14, 2007 | Posts: 1,328 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting jgilligan: Quote: Maybe the best approach is to do what most contributors do... Contribute and completely ignore PMs and the forum.
The frustration seems to come from trying to make things better and help the community. But that seems to just stir up the vocal minority, it doesn't seem to help resolve the ongoing problems.
Sorry to see you go. I would like to think you may reconsider after taking a break, but I don't think the atmosphere is going to change much around here. That's pretty much what I do. I mainly only contribute new profiles. If it gets rejected, then I figure it's their loss. I stopped making cast/crew corrections because I do not agree with the naming rules adopted by the community. | | | My Home Theater |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 21,610 |
| Posted: | | | | xradman: I have to ask this, then why do you watch movies at all. The naming convventions that were adopted are the ones used by Hollywood in their credits. It would seem to follow that there naming conventions do not meet with your approval either, particularly when you are dealing with Cast of mixed national origin. That is all we do...copy the data provided by the film. I have said many times I hope that something can be created that will allow for what you want, but... we wait...patiently Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!! CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it. Outta here
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Registered: March 28, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 1,299 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Dr Pavlov: Quote: xradman:
I have to ask this, then why do you watch movies at all. The naming convventions that were adopted are the ones used by Hollywood in their credits. It would seem to follow that there naming conventions do not meet with your approval either, particularly when you are dealing with Cast of mixed national origin. That is all we do...copy the data provided by the film. Huh? I don't know about you, but I watch movies for the storytelling and not for the credits. I very much suspect the vast majority of people do it for a similar reason. So why would someone not agreeing with naming conventions used by DVD Profiler and/or by Hollywood have anything to do with why they watch a movies? KM | | | Tags, tags, bo bags, banana fana fo fags, mi my mo mags, TAGS! Dolly's not alone. You can also clone profiles. You've got questions? You've got answers? Take the DVD Profiler Wiki for a spin. |
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Registered: February 23, 2009 | Reputation: | Posts: 1,580 |
| Posted: | | | | xradman has a point in that Hollywood naming conventions is a non-existing thing. Otherwise every actor would be credited exactly the same way, which is not the case. It's basically just a guy with a computer somewhere in an office typing away as he sees fit. | | | Blu-ray collection DVD collection My Games My Trophies |
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Registered: March 29, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 4,479 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Taro: Quote: It's basically just a guy with a computer somewhere in an office typing away as he sees fit. ... and making often typos... | | | Images from movies |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 21,610 |
| Posted: | | | | | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!! CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it. Outta here
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Registered: March 14, 2007 | Posts: 1,328 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Dr Pavlov: Quote: xradman:
I have to ask this, then why do you watch movies at all. The naming convventions that were adopted are the ones used by Hollywood in their credits. It would seem to follow that there naming conventions do not meet with your approval either, particularly when you are dealing with Cast of mixed national origin. That is all we do...copy the data provided by the film.
I have said many times I hope that something can be created that will allow for what you want, but... we wait...patiently
Skip ??? What does DVD profile naming convention have to do with watching movies? However, I have to ask you Skip in all seriousness, with all the time you spend in this forum and time you spend in checking profiles, where do you find time to watch any movies? | | | My Home Theater |
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Registered: May 8, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 1,945 |
| Posted: | | | | Yeh those typos are annoying Of course I include them when I submit a profile, but in my local I would always correct Bruce Willys to Bruce Willis cheers Donnie | | | www.tvmaze.com |
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Registered: February 23, 2009 | Reputation: | Posts: 1,580 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting surfeur51: Quote: Quoting Taro:
Quote: It's basically just a guy with a computer somewhere in an office typing away as he sees fit. ... and making often typos... LOL, that too yeah. Best one I ever saw was 'Jorge Lucas'. Turns out it wasn't his Spanish half-brother but instead George Lucas himself | | | Blu-ray collection DVD collection My Games My Trophies |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 21,610 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting xradman: Quote: Quoting Dr Pavlov:
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I have to ask this, then why do you watch movies at all. The naming convventions that were adopted are the ones used by Hollywood in their credits. It would seem to follow that there naming conventions do not meet with your approval either, particularly when you are dealing with Cast of mixed national origin. That is all we do...copy the data provided by the film.
I have said many times I hope that something can be created that will allow for what you want, but... we wait...patiently
Skip
??? What does DVD profile naming convention have to do with watching movies?
However, I have to ask you Skip in all seriousness, with all the time you spend in this forum and time you spend in checking profiles, where do you find time to watch any movies? I do find time, xradman, niotas much as I might like, but i do find time. Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!! CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it. Outta here
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 2,217 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting xradman: Quote: That's pretty much what I do. I mainly only contribute new profiles. If it gets rejected, then I figure it's their loss. Word! This laid-back-attitude saves me from a lot of grief and annoyance I simply to not wish to burden myself with. I have a life and watch movies for fun. My universe doesn't revolve around the DVD Profiler as some other peoples very small worlds seem to do. Although I sometime do update existing profiles, I automatically dropp to "their loss" if it is rejected for a reason I can't fathom. cya, Mithi | | | Mithi's little XSLT tinkering - the power of XML --- DVD-Profiler Mini-Wiki |
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Registered: April 7, 2007 | Posts: 357 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Dr Pavlov: Quote: xradman:
I have to ask this, then why do you watch movies at all. The naming convventions that were adopted are the ones used by Hollywood in their credits. It would seem to follow that there naming conventions do not meet with your approval either, particularly when you are dealing with Cast of mixed national origin. That is all we do...copy the data provided by the film.
I have said many times I hope that something can be created that will allow for what you want, but... we wait...patiently
Skip Well I don't know what the answer is but since Hollywood films make up such a small percentage of films produced worldwide I would have thought that was not necessarily a good place to start. |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 21,610 |
| Posted: | | | | I use Hollywood in reference to the film community as a whole, grave. The rules were designed to deal with the credits period, I don't care what language, assuming of course that the program can ACTUALLY deall with them, and that is not a Rules problem, that is a Program problem. Like i said given the assumption, I domn't care what language the credits are in type what you see, in the order you see it, not as you imagine it to be nor as you might prefer it to be. WYSIWYT. Credits are credits are credits, unless they happen to be something that the program cannot handle, which like i said is not a Rules problem. If the Program could handle Kanji characters and the film used Kanji, I would tell you type what you see, not what you think, want or imagine. Then we would have exactly the opposite issue of what we have now, translation of those Kanji characters and hopefully with all of this discussion we might be on the road to formulating a solutiopn for this...MAYBE.
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Registered: March 15, 2007 | Posts: 374 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Dr Pavlov: Quote: WYSIWYT. Skip I fail to see any benefit in this method unless it is combined with an underlying (functioning) linkage system. | | | Last edited: by sugarjoe |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 21,610 |
| Posted: | | | | The linking is a feature of the program not the central datasource, sugar. I understand where you are comingfrom, but you are putting too much on the linking. It is important, perhaps the most important feature but unless the data is dealt with correctly then the Feature will never work correctly. That is the problem we have right now, much of the data has not been dealt with properly, some users are in such hurry to try and assist the CLT they are making assumptions which in the long run will be harmful, this is also why I keep saying good enough is not good enough. The foundation of the data must be solid for any features but this one in particular to functions as it should.
Skip | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!! CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it. Outta here
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