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| Registered: March 19, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 6,018 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Grendell: Quote:
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Sounds like it is time to lock this thread.
And what does that solve? Annoyance of our fellow users by the constant bickering here, resulting in their abandoning these forums. From the Forum Rules: "Moderators will edit posts as deemed necessary, for reasons including but not limited to: Violation of any forum rule Impolite or vulgar language Inciting or vindictive comments Name calling or belittling". Moreover, what exactly does the aforementioned bickering solve? Do you honestly believe the "discussion" (if you can call it that) between you and Bad Father is going anywhere (or will be in the foreseeable future)? P.S. To return to the topic of this thread: For what it's worth, I fully agree with this: Quoting ateo357: Quote:
I'll take 99% correct. Would rather have to fix 1 or 2 things in a profile than 10-20. ... which, at least as far as I know, is Invelos' stated policy as well. | | | | Last edited: by dee1959jay |
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| Registered: August 23, 2008 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 1,656 |
| | Posted: | | | | Locking a thread solves absolutely nothing. It just moves it on to the next thread. | | | Reviewer, HorrorTalk.com
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 | Blair | | Resistance is Futile! |
| Registered: October 30, 2008 | | Posts: 1,249 |
| | Posted: | | | | We need an official/approved "Gripe, B*tch, and Moan" pinned topic in General Discussion that goes unmoderated. Green and red arrows cannot be given in that topic. Say anything you want at any time in that topic, but do so with the understanding that it is for the purpose of keeping the rest of the topics clean. As soon as it looks like bickering instead of discussing is about to start in a topic (take this topic as an example,) one person creates a message in the BG&M topic and adds a post here with a link back to that one. A proverbial "Let's take it outside." Then, any further arguments made in this (or whichever) topic on the issue gets members suspended for a while  Oh yea.... umm..... back on topic. . . . . Yes, members here are picky  | | | If at first you don't succeed, skydiving isn't for you.
He who MUST get the last word in on a pointless, endless argument doesn't win. It makes him the bigger jerk. |
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| Registered: December 27, 2009 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,131 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Blair: Quote:
We need an official/approved "Gripe, B*tch, and Moan" pinned topic in General Discussion that goes unmoderated. Green and red arrows cannot be given in that topic. Say anything you want at any time in that topic, but do so with the understanding that it is for the purpose of keeping the rest of the topics clean.
As soon as it looks like bickering instead of discussing is about to start in a topic (take this topic as an example,) one person creates a message in the BG&M topic and adds a post here with a link back to that one. A proverbial "Let's take it outside." Then, any further arguments made in this (or whichever) topic on the issue gets members suspended for a while
Oh yea.... umm..... back on topic. . . . . Yes, members here are picky I thought it was the GB&M topic. That's it I'll meet you outside.  | | | | Last edited: by ateo357 |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | I'll referee. Lol | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
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| Blair | | Resistance is Futile! |
| Registered: October 30, 2008 | | Posts: 1,249 |
| | Posted: | | | | No referee. That would kill the whole point. Now, where were we.... something about people picking what was behind door number three, I think. I've lost track. | | | If at first you don't succeed, skydiving isn't for you.
He who MUST get the last word in on a pointless, endless argument doesn't win. It makes him the bigger jerk. |
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| Registered: March 19, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,018 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Alien Redrum: Quote:
Locking a thread solves absolutely nothing. It just moves it on to the next thread. Fine. Enjoy. I'm out of here. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 2,692 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting dee1959jay: Quote:
For what it's worth, I fully agree with this:
Quoting ateo357:
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I'll take 99% correct. Would rather have to fix 1 or 2 things in a profile than 10-20.
... which, at least as far as I know, is Invelos' stated policy as well. this is stated Invelos policy. (as far as I can remember). If I could find the post I would - but (as far as I can remember) they said that contributions which made a number of good changes should be accepted even if there were small errors (since these could be separately corrected). so everybody who has said they will vote no if there is anything small thing wrong (when there is a lot of good changes) has been voting directly against Invelos policy. | | | | Paul |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | Sorry Paul... but not so. While it is correct that they said that is Invelos policy... Ken also said himself that a no vote is just as valid. It is not against their policy. | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | Matter of fact... here is Ken's exact statement... Quoting Ken Cole:Quote:
The Invelos evaluators' standing policy is to accept profiles that add significant value. They do not have to be complete, nor even completely accurate. If you're submitting 50 painstakingly correct cast entries but get the production year wrong, the profile should be accepted and corrected later.
"No" votes are equally valid in this case, however. They allow the contributor a chance to correct their submission if they choose, and save someone the effort of the correction later on.
I've sent out a notes reiterating this policy to the evaluators. See what I put in bold. So please tell me... how is something that Ken himself said is EQUALLY VALID against policy. It's not... either way... a yes vote with comment and a no vote with comment are both allowed per Invelos' policy. | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | While I understand the rationale for that Paula, I disagree with the premise of stating such a policy publicly. All that does is foster a lackadsical, I don't care attitude among contributors and voters alike. This has been proven time and time again. Are we better than we were back in the bad old days, absolutely but we are a long way from where I thought we would be. I will continue to vote no to any error I find and hopefully the user will fox it...so someone else doesn't have to. Be considerate of your colleagues when you stay thinking things like 90% is ok, if spriblem is found fix it. | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,202 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Addicted2DVD: Quote:
See what I put in bold. So please tell me... how is something that Ken himself said is EQUALLY VALID against policy. It's not... either way... a yes vote with comment and a no vote with comment are both allowed per Invelos' policy. Not only is it valid, which I pointed out in the first reply...though I didn't provide Ken's quote, so thanks for that Pete...it is what I prefer to get, if I make a mistake. When I look at my contribution page, if all the votes are 'yes', I don't look at the votes. The only time I look at them is if there is a 'no' vote. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMadMartian: Quote:
Quoting Addicted2DVD:
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See what I put in bold. So please tell me... how is something that Ken himself said is EQUALLY VALID against policy. It's not... either way... a yes vote with comment and a no vote with comment are both allowed per Invelos' policy.
Not only is it valid, which I pointed out in the first reply...though I didn't provide Ken's quote, so thanks for that Pete...it is what I prefer to get, if I make a mistake. When I look at my contribution page, if all the votes are 'yes', I don't look at the votes. The only time I look at them is if there is a 'no' vote. ^5, my little martian friend. But you still can't have the illudium 238 space modulator. No kaboom.  | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMadMartian: Quote:
Quoting Addicted2DVD:
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See what I put in bold. So please tell me... how is something that Ken himself said is EQUALLY VALID against policy. It's not... either way... a yes vote with comment and a no vote with comment are both allowed per Invelos' policy.
Not only is it valid, which I pointed out in the first reply...though I didn't provide Ken's quote, so thanks for that Pete...it is what I prefer to get, if I make a mistake. When I look at my contribution page, if all the votes are 'yes', I don't look at the votes. The only time I look at them is if there is a 'no' vote. I am normally the same way (not looking at votes unless there is a no vote) and I know several others have stated the same thing... which is one of my reasons for always doing no votes with comments. | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: May 29, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,475 |
| | Posted: | | | | I have bought a lot of TV shows/series lately. The data for many of them is sorely lacking on almost everything but basic data.
It takes a lot of time and effort to do a complete profile such as the one Merrick did. In my opinion invelos and the "no" voters did nothing but harm the database in this situation.
I wonder, are the "picky" voters willing to go through and do all the work that was lost due to their "valid" vote?
Personally, I would have voted "yes" but but a note in the comments addressing the small mistake(s). I would then contribute that change after the profile was approved. | | | | Last edited: by Kathy |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | I can only speak for myself... but I think I have proven myself that I do a lot of work on profiles... including TV Series that I own. I am definitely not afraid to dig in and do a lot of hard work on the profiles. So I for one am "willing" to go through and do the work. Though at the same time... I will ONLY work on the profiles I am in the mood to do... when I am in the mood to do it. So if something gets declined... I may do it the very next day. But then again I may wait a week... a month... or even a year or more... depending on when I am in the mood to work on said profile. | | | | Pete |
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