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| Registered: December 27, 2009 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 5,131 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting hal9g: Quote:
Quoting ateo357:
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Quoting TheMadMartian:
I don't believe that is what I said...in fact, I know it isn't. All I did was point to the rule that says, "If the title is shown run together, but with coloring and/or symbols splitting the title words, use standard spacing."
What i understand with the rule is "If the title is shown run together" Well the title of this movie is run together to begin with, now if the box had spaces between each word then it would be Yellow Brick Road orig. title Yellowbrickroad. But since the original is run together the lack of spacing and color issue is mute. There is no color or symbols splitting the words because it is one word, whether it is a proper word or not makes no difference.
Exactly...you cannot "run together" something that is only one word to start with! So why does it have to turn into a major discussion. Break each rule down by sections. If it doesn't meet the first section the rest are mute. | | | | Last edited: by ateo357 |
| | Registered: August 23, 2008 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 1,656 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting ateo357: Quote:
Quoting TheMadMartian:
I don't believe that is what I said...in fact, I know it isn't. All I did was point to the rule that says, "If the title is shown run together, but with coloring and/or symbols splitting the title words, use standard spacing."
What i understand with the rule is "If the title is shown run together" Well the title of this movie is run together to begin with, now if the box had spaces between each word then it would be Yellow Brick Road orig. title Yellowbrickroad. But since the original is run together the lack of spacing and color issue is mute. There is no color or symbols splitting the words because it is one word, whether it is a proper word or not makes no difference. Bravo! Quoting ateo357: Quote:
So why does it have to turn into a major discussion. Break each rule down by sections. If it doesn't meet the first section the rest are mute. The simple answer is some people just don't have any common sense. Many of them congregate on this forum. This thread (and the many, many others like it here) is just but one example of that. The secondary problem is you have owners that don't care about the customers, so guidance in these situations generally never comes, so you're left with people trying to put a square peg in a round hole, desperately trying to conform to a rule that doesn't necessarily apply (or explicitly cover), data be damned. If you have to make something up, make something up. Put fictional data in. It's the rules that are important, not the data! It's the trainwreckery of threads like this that makes this forum awesome, and the mockery of anyone who ever talks about Profiler. | | | Reviewer, HorrorTalk.com
"I also refuse to document CLT results and I pay my bills to avoid going to court." - Sam, keeping it real, yo. | | | | Last edited: by Alien Redrum |
| | Registered: March 29, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 4,479 |
| | | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,202 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting ateo357: Quote:
What i understand with the rule is "If the title is shown run together" Well the title of this movie is run together to begin with, now if the box had spaces between each word then it would be Yellow Brick Road orig. title Yellowbrickroad. But since the original is run together the lack of spacing and color issue is mute. There is no color or symbols splitting the words because it is one word, whether it is a proper word or not makes no difference. The problem with this stance is that the rules don't make that distinction. 'Yellowbrickroad' is a title, not a single word. It is a title made up of three words...yellow, brick & road... run together and split using color. The fact that the title is run together to begin with, is irrelevant as the rules do not make that exception. Do I like it? No. Does it make sense? No. But it is how I read the rule. Your mileage will, of course, vary. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
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Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar |
| | Registered: March 26, 2009 | | Posts: 1,387 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMadMartian: Quote:
Quoting ateo357:
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What i understand with the rule is "If the title is shown run together" Well the title of this movie is run together to begin with, now if the box had spaces between each word then it would be Yellow Brick Road orig. title Yellowbrickroad. But since the original is run together the lack of spacing and color issue is mute. There is no color or symbols splitting the words because it is one word, whether it is a proper word or not makes no difference.
The problem with this stance is that the rules don't make that distinction. 'Yellowbrickroad' is a title, not a single word. It is a title made up of three words...yellow, brick & road... run together and split using color. The fact that the title is run together to begin with, is irrelevant as the rules do not make that exception.
Do I like it? No. Does it make sense? No. But it is how I read the rule. Your mileage will, of course, vary. The problem is the name of the movie is what should be put in the database If it's run together than you put what they marketed as not what you think it should be. If I make and marketed a movie titled Kissmybutt than that's what goes in the database not Kiss my butt no matter what everyone else thinks it should be. |
| | Registered: November 24, 2008 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 1,282 |
| | Posted: | | | | What does it say in the credit block on the back of the DVD case? YELLOWBRICKROAD or YELLOW BRICK ROAD. That should prove it either way. |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 736 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting GreyHulk: Quote:
What does it say in the credit block on the back of the DVD case? YELLOWBRICKROAD or YELLOW BRICK ROAD. That should prove it either way. "YELLOWBRICKROAD" |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,202 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting GreyHulk: Quote:
What does it say in the credit block on the back of the DVD case? YELLOWBRICKROAD or YELLOW BRICK ROAD. That should prove it either way. The title of the film is 'YELLOWBRICKROAD' and nobody is claiming otherwise. The problem, however, is the rules don't care what the title of the film is. Rightly or wrongly, for the title field, the rules want the title of the release as it is written on the front of the case. Based on how I read the rule, the profiler title would be 'Yellow Brick Road' and the original title would be 'Yellowbrickroad'. It is unfortunate, but I can't pretend that I read it differently just to make some people happy. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
- Citizen G'Kar | | | | Last edited: by TheMadMartian |
| | Registered: December 10, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,004 |
| | Posted: | | | | What people seem to be arguing for here is that the title of the movie should be however it is typically written in plain text unless the logo clearly says something different. This would actually cover almost all the title rules in one fell swoop. If you want to change the rule to this, I'll support you, but let's not pretend that's what the rules already say. |
| | Registered: March 20, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,851 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMadMartian: Quote:
the rules don't care what the title of the film is. Rightly or wrongly, for the title field, the rules want the title of the release as it is written on the front of the case. I'm amazed at how many people pretend to not understand this. --------------- |
| | Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 6,744 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting scotthm: Quote:
Quoting TheMadMartian:
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the rules don't care what the title of the film is. Rightly or wrongly, for the title field, the rules want the title of the release as it is written on the front of the case.
I'm amazed at how many people pretend to not understand this. The argued point is if this title is "run together". The rules say "If the title is shown run together..." Now the question is: Is it run together or not? As proven by the trailer, the on-screen title and the copyright notice the title is one word (and the letters and the spaces are identical in all 4 places, including the front cover). It's a made-up word to be sure, but so is "supercalifragilisticexpialidocious". This made-up word contains three parts that are english words by themselves but the title is one word and one word only, hence the title is not run together. if = false -> rule does not apply. If you see three distinct words then only because you want to, despite all evidene to the contrary. | | | Karsten
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| | Registered: May 8, 2007 | | Posts: 824 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMadMartian: Quote:
Based on how I read the rule, the profiler title would be 'Yellow Brick Road' and the original title would be 'Yellowbrickroad'. It is unfortunate, but I can't pretend that I read it differently just to make some people happy. You seem to be the only one in this thread with a real problem. The thread ended at the sixth reply, but you started an argument at post seven and kept it going into a now four page back and forth. But of course it's not you, it's everyone else, as you can do no wrong, for you follow the rules and you have a ton of stars under your name. Keep it up and lets see how many more pages we can add to this "discussion." | | | | 99.9% of all cat plans consist only of "Step 1." |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting DJ Doena: Quote:
The argued point is if this title is "run together".
The rules say "If the title is shown run together..." Now the question is: Is it run together or not? As proven by the trailer, the on-screen title and the copyright notice the title is one word (and the letters and the spaces are identical in all 4 places, including the front cover). It's a made-up word to be sure, but so is "supercalifragilisticexpialidocious". This made-up word contains three parts that are english words by themselves but the title is one word and one word only, hence the title is not run together.
if = false -> rule does not apply.
Precisely! | | | | Hal |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Grendell: Quote:
Quoting TheMadMartian:
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Based on how I read the rule, the profiler title would be 'Yellow Brick Road' and the original title would be 'Yellowbrickroad'. It is unfortunate, but I can't pretend that I read it differently just to make some people happy.
You seem to be the only one in this thread with a real problem. The thread ended at the sixth reply, but you started an argument at post seven and kept it going into a now four page back and forth.
But of course it's not you, it's everyone else, as you can do no wrong, for you follow the rules and you have a ton of stars under your name. Keep it up and lets see how many more pages we can add to this "discussion." I haven't changed my opinion on the matter. I still read it the same way as Martian. I just decided to say my peace and be done with it. That Don't mean I changed my mind. | | | | Pete | | | | Last edited: by Addicted2DVD |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | The intent of the rule that has been quoted, IMHO, was to address those cases where the cover designer takes a title that in reality is multiple words and displays it on the cover all "run together".
It was never intended for situations like this.....IMHO! | | | | Hal |
| | Registered: December 27, 2009 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 5,131 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting hal9g: Quote:
The intent of the rule that has been quoted, IMHO, was to address those cases where the cover designer takes a title that in reality is multiple words and displays it on the cover all "run together".
It was never intended for situations like this.....IMHO! Just checked a couple of DVD's I've recently contributed So according to the ones that think this title should be seperated. Check the DVD case for Heartbreakers and Gridlock'd, by their reasoning these movies should be listed as Heart Breakers & Grid Lock'd. The title is run together but there are different charactoristics to each word in the titles. I See Heart & Breakers and Grid & Lock'd. | | | | Last edited: by ateo357 |
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