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PlayStation Network Compromised
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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantDr. Killpatient
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Also, just about every news story on the breach said that passwords were compromised. I believe I read that Sony has encouraged it's members to change the password on other sites if they used the same password on the PSN.

This tells me that the passwords are in plain-text format without any encryption.
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Quoting Dr. Killpatient:
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This tells me that the passwords are in plain-text format without any encryption.

They explicited said so in their first press release: all data, excluding credit card info, is in a non-encrypted table (non-encrypted I believe doesn't necessarily mean plain text but chances are it is).
CC info was in a seperate table that has 128-bit encryption.

Some people are now saying that the non-encrypted table was hashed and not in plain text, but I can't find an official source (Sony source) to confirm this.
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Saw this today, your passwords were not in plain text.

I also spoke to my CC company and they advised that, while of course be very vigilant, there was no reason to cancel my card. If anything suspicious happens they will cancel the card at no cost and fully refund those payments,

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Keep in mind that your CC company may want to mitigate the potential costs of sending out millions of new CC cards on a gamble that the CC info won't be decrypted.

I'm glad that the passwords were hashed. While not infallible in preventing against figuring out potential matches, the workload would be immense - they would have to create a hash table for every possible password combination to break it.  Using characters available on the US keyboard, the number of iterations increases by a power of 94 every time you add a character.
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Ah, that's the proof of the hashing I was looking for. So far all I had was indirect hearsay.

It does somewhat reassure me.
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PSN is starting back up again starting right now, you'll be required to download firmware 3.61 and reset your password, after that you may already be able on go online (US & Canada) or later today (rest of the world)


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The update took about 10 minutes from start to password change.
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