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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | And? as far as I understand it those are all allowed. If I am remembering correctly she said the Upper ASCII Code. Which tells me personally very little... but I always understood that to mean only those you need to use the character map or key combos for. | | | | Pete |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 2,759 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting TheMadMartian: Quote:
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Is including the bling useful? I don't think so, but including it, when possible, is what the rules tell us to do. 
No, the rules do not tell us to use the bling. At least for symbols (anything other than letters and digits) they tell us to check the credit block on the back of the case if included. If not, check the film credits or opening sequence.
And when those places include the bling, which does happen, we are to include it using a standard character...or am I missing something here?  No, that's correct. But as GSyren has said, I would not call that bling any more. Then it would be part of the actual title chosen by the film makers and their legal department. Even thought I still would call the usage of a heart symbol or cube symbol in a title silly. And as GSyren I may choose to not include them in my local profile. But in my experience the title in the credit block most often uses standard text characters only. |
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Of Course the Martian is right.
And if I am not mistaken... this should also mean since you can't just type Alien³ on a standard keyboard it should be Alien 3 in the database.
Don't type that too loudly. On a german keyboard layout you can enter squared² and cubed³ simply by pressing ALT GR + 2 / 3.
As you can many things by typing a code such as that... but that is not what Gerri meant with her statement about this... she said without going to the character map or using such key combos to type it. Hmm, it's not different than typing a ! (shift + 1) or a & (shift + 6). Two buttons pushed together for a ! or a ². *Sorry, couldn't resist*  Edit: I'm typing very, very slow today. | | | | Last edited: by VirusPil |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 2,759 |
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What does the credit block say? I think it is reasonable to convert symbols in the graphical title from the opening credits into text the same way the rules tell us to do it for the title field.
The credit block, at least on my copy, reads ALIEN³. So that would be the original title then (of course converted to standard capitalisation). |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 2,759 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Addicted2DVD: Quote:
And? as far as I understand it those are all allowed. If I am remembering correctly she said the Upper ASCII Code. Which tells me personally very little... but I always understood that to mean only those you need to use the character map or key combos for. Yes, she has mentioned typing on a normal keyboard and upper ASCII. But this doesn't matter any more. The rules have changed on the topic of symbols since then. And IMO this change has been intentional. |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 1,328 |
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What does the credit block say? I think it is reasonable to convert symbols in the graphical title from the opening credits into text the same way the rules tell us to do it for the title field.
The credit block, at least on my copy, reads ALIEN³.
So that would be the original title then (of course converted to standard capitalisation). If you are going to convert these to standard capitalization, you might as well go all the way and convert it to normal English and call it Alien 3. It makes no sense to keep "³" when you are not going to keep "ALIEN". Both are artistic/creative "bling" IMO. | | | | My Home Theater |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 2,759 |
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What does the credit block say? I think it is reasonable to convert symbols in the graphical title from the opening credits into text the same way the rules tell us to do it for the title field.
The credit block, at least on my copy, reads ALIEN³.
So that would be the original title then (of course converted to standard capitalisation).
If you are going to convert these to standard capitalization, you might as well go all the way and convert it to normal English and call it Alien 3. It makes no sense to keep "³" when you are not going to keep "ALIEN". Both are artistic/creative "bling" IMO. While in fact I would use "Alien 3" locally (if I'd own that film), I have to admit that capitalisation and special chars are different things which are handled differently by the rules. |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,202 |
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No, that's correct. But as GSyren has said, I would not call that bling any more. Then it would be part of the actual title chosen by the film makers and their legal department. Even thought I still would call the usage of a heart symbol or cube symbol in a title silly. And as GSyren I may choose to not include them in my local profile. But in my experience the title in the credit block most often uses standard text characters only. I actually can't make that distinction. Bling is bling no matter where it is. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 2,759 |
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No, that's correct. But as GSyren has said, I would not call that bling any more. Then it would be part of the actual title chosen by the film makers and their legal department. Even thought I still would call the usage of a heart symbol or cube symbol in a title silly. And as GSyren I may choose to not include them in my local profile. But in my experience the title in the credit block most often uses standard text characters only.
I actually can't make that distinction. Bling is bling no matter where it is. Ok, but the rules make that distinction. And IMO the difference is easy: Cover is graphics, credit block is text. | | | | Last edited: by RHo |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 13,202 |
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I actually can't make that distinction. Bling is bling no matter where it is.
Ok, but the rules make that distinction.
And IMO the difference is easy: Cover is graphics, credit block is text. Actually, the rules don't. Just like possessives, all the rules do is tell us when to exclude or include the symbols. Whether or not they are 'bling' is a matter of opinion. | | | No dictator, no invader can hold an imprisoned population by force of arms forever.
There is no greater power in the universe than the need for freedom.
Against this power, governments and tyrants and armies cannot stand.
The Centauri learned this lesson once.
We will teach it to them again.
Though it take a thousand years, we will be free.
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 1,328 |
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I actually can't make that distinction. Bling is bling no matter where it is.
Ok, but the rules make that distinction.
And IMO the difference is easy: Cover is graphics, credit block is text.
Actually, the rules don't. Just like possessives, all the rules do is tell us when to exclude or include the symbols. Whether or not they are 'bling' is a matter of opinion. Agreed. IMO, ALIEN³ is "bling" even though it's in the title block as well as the cover. | | | | My Home Theater |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 2,759 |
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I actually can't make that distinction. Bling is bling no matter where it is.
Ok, but the rules make that distinction.
And IMO the difference is easy: Cover is graphics, credit block is text.
Actually, the rules don't. Just like possessives, all the rules do is tell us when to exclude or include the symbols. Whether or not they are 'bling' is a matter of opinion. You are right of course, the rules do not use the word bling at all.  |
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