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Registered: October 6, 2008 | Posts: 1,932 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting RHo: Quote: Quoting Prof. Kingsfield:
Quote: Yes you can contribute we are also free to vote NO on them and based upon the poll I would expect you to see a LOT of No votes, and I certainly hope that you do. You could vote No. But this would violate the voting rules:
Quote: If a user is following the Contribution Rules and his/her data is accurate, and the contribution replaces data which is inaccurate or violates these Contribution Rules, a "No" vote is considered an abuse of the voting privilege and should be avoided when possible. How is the lack of production studios inaccurate or in violation of the Rules? |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 6,635 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting CalebAndCo: Quote: Quoting RHo:
Quote: Quoting Prof. Kingsfield:
Quote: Yes you can contribute we are also free to vote NO on them and based upon the poll I would expect you to see a LOT of No votes, and I certainly hope that you do. You could vote No. But this would violate the voting rules:
Quote: If a user is following the Contribution Rules and his/her data is accurate, and the contribution replaces data which is inaccurate or violates these Contribution Rules, a "No" vote is considered an abuse of the voting privilege and should be avoided when possible. How is the lack of production studios inaccurate or in violation of the Rules? I agree. The "boxset" does not have a "Production Studio", therefore, adding one to its profile would be entering incorrect data! A "no" vote would be required, IMHO. | | | Hal |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 21,610 |
| Posted: | | | | Apparently Rho believes that if it is not covered by the Rules then he is free to interject whatever he wishes and it should be automatically approved. Wrong | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!! CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it. Outta here
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 2,759 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting CalebAndCo: Quote: Quoting RHo:
Quote: Quoting Prof. Kingsfield:
Quote: Yes you can contribute we are also free to vote NO on them and based upon the poll I would expect you to see a LOT of No votes, and I certainly hope that you do. You could vote No. But this would violate the voting rules:
Quote: If a user is following the Contribution Rules and his/her data is accurate, and the contribution replaces data which is inaccurate or violates these Contribution Rules, a "No" vote is considered an abuse of the voting privilege and should be avoided when possible. How is the lack of production studios inaccurate or in violation of the Rules? So you think you are allowed to vote No when someone wants to add allowed and accurate data to an empty field? Of course you are free to vote as you like. But as I have said, in my experience the screeners ignore such votes. | | | Last edited: by RHo |
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Registered: October 6, 2008 | Posts: 1,932 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting RHo: Quote: Quoting CalebAndCo:
Quote: Quoting RHo:
Quote: Quoting Prof. Kingsfield:
Quote: Yes you can contribute we are also free to vote NO on them and based upon the poll I would expect you to see a LOT of No votes, and I certainly hope that you do. You could vote No. But this would violate the voting rules:
Quote: If a user is following the Contribution Rules and his/her data is accurate, and the contribution replaces data which is inaccurate or violates these Contribution Rules, a "No" vote is considered an abuse of the voting privilege and should be avoided when possible. How is the lack of production studios inaccurate or in violation of the Rules? So you think you are allowed to vote No when someone wants to add allowed and accurate data to an empty field? I was merely pointing out the second clause of the rule you quoted to insist that "No" votes would be voting abuse. Both conditions must be true for the final clause to kick in. |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 2,759 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Prof. Kingsfield: Quote: Apparently Rho believes that if it is not covered by the Rules then he is free to interject whatever he wishes and it should be automatically approved. Wrong No, the data has to be accurate and coming from the disc. The rules clearly state what kind of data is allowed in the studio field and the box set rules don't say otherwise. The box set rules are only an addition for those special profiles. The main rules still apply to box set rules as well (except where the box set rules say otherwise). |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 21,610 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting RHo: Quote: Quoting CalebAndCo:
Quote: Quoting RHo:
Quote: Quoting Prof. Kingsfield:
Quote: Yes you can contribute we are also free to vote NO on them and based upon the poll I would expect you to see a LOT of No votes, and I certainly hope that you do. You could vote No. But this would violate the voting rules:
Quote: If a user is following the Contribution Rules and his/her data is accurate, and the contribution replaces data which is inaccurate or violates these Contribution Rules, a "No" vote is considered an abuse of the voting privilege and should be avoided when possible. How is the lack of production studios inaccurate or in violation of the Rules? So you think you are allowed to vote No when someone wants to add allowed and accurate data to an empty field?
Of course you are free to vote as you like. But as I have said, in my experience the screeners ignore such votes. I thinjk that if you are adding data that is not spelled out in the Rules, in short if you feel you are FREEE to add whatever you want, I am also free to vote my own conscience and my own logic. If the rules do not apply to putting in such data, then rules likewise do not giovern the voting and i am willing to bet based on the poll and the fuss making here any future attempts on your part will go down in flames and i certainly hope so. As I said, Rho should I see you adding Production Studio to a Boxset, I will not hesitate to vote No. | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!! CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it. Outta here
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 2,759 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting hal9g: Quote: I agree. The "boxset" does not have a "Production Studio", therefore, adding one to its profile would be entering incorrect data! A "no" vote would be required, IMHO. I agree that the packaging does not have a production studio. But box set profiles do not only cover the packaging. The packaging does not have a run time or a production year as well. But those are mandatory by the rules. |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 2,759 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Prof. Kingsfield: Quote:
I thinjk that if you are adding data that is not spelled out in the Rules, in short if you feel you are FREEE to add whatever you want, I am also free to vote my own conscience and my own logic. If the rules do not apply to putting in such data, then rules likewise do not giovern the voting and i am willing to bet based on the poll and the fuss making here any future attempts on your part will go down in flames and i certainly hope so.
As I said, Rho should I see you adding Production Studio to a Boxset, I will not hesitate to vote No. The rules clearly state what data goes into the studio field. That part of the rules is valid for box set profiles as well. |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 21,610 |
| Posted: | | | | The poll results, Rho leave very little doubt that you are on the wrong side of this issue. | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!! CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it. Outta here
Billy Video |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 2,759 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Prof. Kingsfield: Quote: The poll results, Rho leave very little doubt that you are on the wrong side of this issue. Since when do polls override the rules? |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 21,610 |
| Posted: | | | | Now you did raise an interesting question and one I have been wrestling with for awhile.Yes, we do record the Runtime of the boxset, which is the total of the Titles in the Boxset. This is useful information giving one an indication of the size of the boxset...timewise. However, using it also inflates the runtime totals for a collection since the runtime for the titles is also logged, the runtime becomes double counted. A conundrum to say the least. | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!! CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it. Outta here
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 21,610 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting RHo: Quote: Quoting Prof. Kingsfield:
Quote: The poll results, Rho leave very little doubt that you are on the wrong side of this issue. Since when do polls override the rules? You are outside the Rules on this one, creating your own interpretation. Once again simply to stir the pot. The best that can be said is that astudios are not allowed or disallowed within the Boxset rules. So you are free to try and others are also free to say No you won't either. Enough is enough, I know what you think, you know what I think. You are not going to change my mind nor i yours (not that I care). Simpl;y put end of discussion, it's going no where, youi do know that if you try and I see it, you will see a guaranteed NO vote and i suspect that I will not be alone. There is nothing further for either of us to say. | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!! CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it. Outta here
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 2,759 |
| Posted: | | | | Quoting Prof. Kingsfield: Quote: Now you did raise an interesting question and one I have been wrestling with for awhile.Yes, we do record the Runtime of the boxset, which is the total of the Titles in the Boxset. This is useful information giving one an indication of the size of the boxset...timewise. However, using it also inflates the runtime totals for a collection since the runtime for the titles is also logged, the runtime becomes double counted. A conundrum to say the least. Interestingly I have raised this point in this post on page 2 and then several times afterwards. |
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Registered: May 29, 2007 | Reputation: | Posts: 3,475 |
| Posted: | | | | I agree with many of the points Rho has brought up on this issue.
Although voters might not want this data entered, adding Studios to the Box Set parent is allowed per the rules.
The rules specifically list the data that is not to be entered and Studios is not one of them. There is no interpretation needed - I can read what we are not to enter.
As such, those voting "no" are violating the guidelines invelos has set up. |
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Registered: March 13, 2007 | Posts: 21,610 |
| Posted: | | | | And I disagree, Kathy. if Rho is free to add data not specifically covered by the Rules, then voters are likewise free to vote their consciensce...and i will not hesitate to do so.
Rho:
Gee, I must have missed those...kudos to you for it. I tend to over look a lot of your writings because of your persistent combative attitude. Sorry about that. | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!! CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it. Outta here
Billy Video |
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