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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorninehours
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I have always used the companies marked as Package Design (Created the physical media?) and Distributed by



so from this i would enter "Turner Entertainment" and "Warner Home Video" is that correct or should it only be the Distributor?
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How does a layman find the distribution company then? Are they typically listed on the back cover as such?

I don't see it on this cover (not my scan but it's all I have right now) (and yes, it's cropped terribly but you can still read the cropped words)

Thanks for the image, Rick.  As I mentioned earlier, the MC is in logo form, bottom left of the case...Universal Studios Home Entertainment.
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I have always used the companies marked as Package Design (Created the physical media?) and Distributed by [removed image] so from this i would enter "Turner Entertainment" and "Warner Home Video" is that correct or should it only be the Distributor?

I would enter Turner Entertainment and Warner Bros. Entertainment (names next to the year of release) and Warner Home Video (distributor).

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Thanks for the image, Rick.  As I mentioned earlier, the MC is in logo form, bottom left of the case...Universal Studios Home Entertainment.

I would enter Universal Studios (name next to the year of release) and Universal Studios Home Entertainment (distributor).
...James

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The rule does not say that the Media Company has to be the company next to the year of DVD release 

Indeed it doesn't.  It says that it is usually found there, not that we have to take it from there.

To me, that language is to allow one to look elsewhere if it isn't there. But if it is there, as is the case in my example, the word "usually"doesn't allow you to overlook the fact that it's there.

Ah, but there is the rub.  In your case, it isn't there.  In fact, in the vast majority of cases, it isn't going to be there.  What you will find there, in the vast majority of cases, is the parent company or copyright holder, not the MC.
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Ah, but there is the rub.  In your case, it isn't there.  In fact, in the vast majority of cases, it isn't going to be there.  What you will find there, in the vast majority of cases, is the parent company or copyright holder, not the MC.

What you are saying isn't there is the distributor. They are all media companies though.
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I have always used the companies marked as Package Design (Created the physical media?) and Distributed by



so from this i would enter "Turner Entertainment" and "Warner Home Video" is that correct or should it only be the Distributor?


That's a difficult one. In this case I would definitely add Turner Entertainment, because The Wizard of Oz is an MGM picture. Turner Entertainment is a media company that distributes and owns the rights of nearly all MGM's films produced till about 1986 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turner_Entertainment). Somewhere on the back cover there should be a Turner Entertainment logo as well.
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I have always used the companies marked as Package Design (Created the physical media?) and Distributed by



so from this i would enter "Turner Entertainment" and "Warner Home Video" is that correct or should it only be the Distributor?

It should only be the distributor, but I have a question...why did you ignore Warner Bros. Entertainment Inc. and Warner Bros. Entertainment UK Ltd?  You were correct to do so, but I am curious as to why you would enter Turner and not those.
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I have always used the companies marked as Package Design (Created the physical media?) and Distributed by



so from this i would enter "Turner Entertainment" and "Warner Home Video" is that correct or should it only be the Distributor?

It should only be the distributor, but I have a question...why did you ignore Warner Bros. Entertainment Inc. and Warner Bros. Entertainment UK Ltd?  You were correct to do so, but I am curious as to why you would enter Turner and not those.


There's a Turner Entertainment logo on the back cover as well (the Region 2 Netherlands release has one and probably the UK one too), so that company has to be added as well.
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Ah, but there is the rub.  In your case, it isn't there.  In fact, in the vast majority of cases, it isn't going to be there.  What you will find there, in the vast majority of cases, is the parent company or copyright holder, not the MC.

What you are saying isn't there is the distributor. They are all media companies though.

Yes, technically, they are a media company, but they are not the DVD Publisher...which is the name the rules give the company we are after. 
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There's a Turner Entertainment logo on the back cover as well, so that company has to be added as well.

Thanks for that, it wasn't in the picture, so I didn't know.  That being the case, then yes, Turner would be entered as well.
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Yes, technically, they are a media company, but they are not the DVD Publisher...which is the name the rules give the company we are after. 

How can the company responsible for the package and design not be a publisher?
...James

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Yes, technically, they are a media company, but they are not the DVD Publisher...which is the name the rules give the company we are after. 

How can the company responsible for the package and design not be a publisher?

I don't believe the case ever says they are responsible for the package and design, only that they hold the copyright to them.  WBHV is a division of Warner Bros. Entertainment, Inc.  Because of that, they own the copyright to anything, and everything, that WBHV publishes.  They don't have to do the actual publishing to own the copyright.

And with that, I am off.  It is my daughters birthday and I am taking her to see "How to Train your Dragon."  I look forward to the 5 pages that will appear while I am gone. 
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Do you guys not see the problem here? This field is messed up! OK, maybe I'm just figuring that out but it doesn't make it any less so.

X is correct according to the rules but you really need to use X's logo to get the true company, unless of course you are in Europe, then you can use X.

It would really be good for Ken to step in and give us some official input here. I hope he's sitting on a rooftop somewhere, watching...

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I have always used the companies marked as Package Design (Created the physical media?) and Distributed by



so from this i would enter "Turner Entertainment" and "Warner Home Video" is that correct or should it only be the Distributor?

Why?
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Do you guys not see the problem here? This field is messed up! OK, maybe I'm just figuring that out but it doesn't make it any less so.

X is correct according to the rules but you really need to use X's logo to get the true company, unless of course you are in Europe, then you can use X.

It would really be good for Ken to step in and give us some official input here. I hope he's sitting on a rooftop somewhere, watching...

I agree that it's being made a lot more difficult than it needs to be. Users should be able to look at the back of the box and list what they see without knowing who owns who or who's just a name and not a company and who's a real publisher in the distributor sense of the word and who's technically a media company but not exactly a publisher. Too much! Keep it simple.
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Yes, technically, they are a media company, but they are not the DVD Publisher...which is the name the rules give the company we are after. 

How can the company responsible for the package and design not be a publisher?

Are we PackagingProfiler, I don't see it as having any importance, James and seldom is it so readily defined. As I said at the time Ken accepted this, it was not defined at that time and i don't think it CAN be consistently defined in a way that will prevent it from being a bone of contention. The DC is easy, not so anything else, and the only such information that seems of an real import, and by and large this will be for OLDER DVDs is the AUTHORING company. There is no publisher, turbner is next to nothing, they have produced a handful of films but have their name on a lot of titles simply because of ownership...nothing else. They don't manufacture DVD or BDs, they don't author them, they surely don't do any distribution.

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