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The Citerion Collection vs. Mills Creek
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For those who complain about Criterion's pricing, remember that they price the BD versions of their discs at the same price as their regular DVDs.  No other company is willing to do that.

Back in 1998, when Criterion made the decision to release nonanamorphic because few had widescreen televisions, there was a hue and cry over at the old Home Theater Forum and Steve Tannehill's DVD Resource about it; not many actually had the sets, but it was clear where the market was heading. Wish Criterion had listened to us back in the day.
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For those who complain about Criterion's pricing, remember that they price the BD versions of their discs at the same price as their regular DVDs.  No other company is willing to do that.


No other company prices their DVD's so high, thats why.
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For those who complain about Criterion's pricing, remember that they price the BD versions of their discs at the same price as their regular DVDs.

It's because it will be just insane to ask 75.99$ for them... I just can't imagine all the "I need all the spine number" Criterion fans would continue to buy everything released by them at those prices...
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For those who complain about Criterion's pricing, remember that they price the BD versions of their discs at the same price as their regular DVDs.  No other company is willing to do that.

Back in 1998, when Criterion made the decision to release nonanamorphic because few had widescreen televisions, there was a hue and cry over at the old Home Theater Forum and Steve Tannehill's DVD Resource about it; not many actually had the sets, but it was clear where the market was heading. Wish Criterion had listened to us back in the day.

Actually at the moment amzon sells the bu-rays cheaper than the DVD's, thats why I decided to collect the Blu-Rays.  The prices are currently tied on Deep Discount.
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For those who complain about Criterion's pricing, remember that they price the BD versions of their discs at the same price as their regular DVDs.  No other company is willing to do that.

Back in 1998, when Criterion made the decision to release nonanamorphic because few had widescreen televisions, there was a hue and cry over at the old Home Theater Forum and Steve Tannehill's DVD Resource about it; not many actually had the sets, but it was clear where the market was heading. Wish Criterion had listened to us back in the day.

Actually at the moment amzon sells the bu-rays cheaper than the DVD's, thats why I decided to collect the Blu-Rays.  The prices are currently tied on Deep Discount.


DVD was only ever to me a slight upgrade from Laserdisc. Blu-ray was what i always waited for. I recently watched repulsion last night holy cow how awesome it looked on Blu 
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Although the discussion has moved toward Criterion exclusively, I'd like to post a comment about Mills Creek that I don't believe I've seen in previous posts.  Yes, many of their box sets of vintage (old) television series and movies are low quality transfers.  I've seen some that look like they were filmed off a 1950s television with an 8mm Kodak camera. However, one thing about them:  many are titles that have little chance of ever being released on DVD any other way.  And, they include material that hasn't been televised on broadcast or cable in years.  So, in other words, without Mills Creek you'd never ever get to see those shows in ANY condition.

You may now return to discussing the merits of Criterion (and I agree that its quality is good and its prices are too high.)
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... without Mills Creek you'd never ever get to see those shows in ANY condition.

Hey that's true without them I would have never seen Kill Syndrome in my life (even imdb doesn't have an entry for it)... Thinking of it this isn't really a good point for them
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... without Mills Creek you'd never ever get to see those shows in ANY condition.

Hey that's true without them I would have never seen Kill Syndrome in my life (even imdb doesn't have an entry for it)... Thinking of it this isn't really a good point for them

Everybody talks about the Golden Age of Televison (or of Movies).  What few people mention when doing so is that with the golden material came a lot of dreck.  If truth be told, there is probably a lot more dreck out there than gold.
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Speaking of Criterion...

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Dear Criterion collectors,

Our three least favorite initials: OOP. Since we launched the Criterion Collection more than twenty-five years ago, we’ve endeavored to keep everything we’ve published in print. But despite our efforts to renew rights, we are losing a large group of titles from StudioCanal at the end of March, and we wanted to give you advance notice that our editions will be going out of print. Until we’re out of stock, we will be offering these titles at an additional $5 off on our website. The titles are going to Lionsgate, and we don’t know when they may be rereleased. As ever, we will continue to try to relicense the films so that they can rejoin the collection sometime in the future.

Here are the titles that will soon be out of print:

Alphaville
Carlos Saura’s Flamenco Trilogy (Eclipse Series 6)
Le corbeau
Coup de torchon
Diary of a Country Priest
The Fallen Idol
Forbidden Games (Criterion and Essential Art House editions)
Gervaise (Essential Art House edition)
Grand Illusion (Criterion and Essential Art House editions)
Le jour se lève (Essential Art House edition)
Last Holiday (Essential Art House edition)
Mayerling (Essential Art House edition)
The Orphic Trilogy
Peeping Tom
Pierrot le fou (DVD and Blu-ray editions)
Port of Shadows
Quai des Orfèvres
The Small Back Room
The Tales of Hoffmann (Criterion and Essential Art House editions)
Trafic
Le trou
Variety Lights (Essential Art House edition)
The White Sheik

Take note: this may be your last chance to pick up spine number 1 from the collection.

Happy viewing!
The Criterion Collection
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... without Mills Creek you'd never ever get to see those shows in ANY condition.

Hey that's true without them I would have never seen Kill Syndrome in my life (even imdb doesn't have an entry for it)... Thinking of it this isn't really a good point for them

Everybody talks about the Golden Age of Televison (or of Movies).  What few people mention when doing so is that with the golden material came a lot of dreck.  If truth be told, there is probably a lot more dreck out there than gold.


Ted Sturgeon got it right: 80% of everything is crap.
If it wasn't for bad taste, I wouldn't have no taste at all.

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Speaking of Criterion...

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Dear Criterion collectors,

Our three least favorite initials: OOP. Since we launched the Criterion Collection more than twenty-five years ago, we’ve endeavored to keep everything we’ve published in print. But despite our efforts to renew rights, we are losing a large group of titles from StudioCanal at the end of March, and we wanted to give you advance notice that our editions will be going out of print. Until we’re out of stock, we will be offering these titles at an additional $5 off on our website. The titles are going to Lionsgate, and we don’t know when they may be rereleased. As ever, we will continue to try to relicense the films so that they can rejoin the collection sometime in the future.

Here are the titles that will soon be out of print:

Alphaville
Carlos Saura’s Flamenco Trilogy (Eclipse Series 6)
Le corbeau
Coup de torchon
Diary of a Country Priest
The Fallen Idol
Forbidden Games (Criterion and Essential Art House editions)
Gervaise (Essential Art House edition)
Grand Illusion (Criterion and Essential Art House editions)
Le jour se lève (Essential Art House edition)
Last Holiday (Essential Art House edition)
Mayerling (Essential Art House edition)
The Orphic Trilogy
Peeping Tom
Pierrot le fou (DVD and Blu-ray editions)
Port of Shadows
Quai des Orfèvres
The Small Back Room
The Tales of Hoffmann (Criterion and Essential Art House editions)
Trafic
Le trou
Variety Lights (Essential Art House edition)
The White Sheik

Take note: this may be your last chance to pick up spine number 1 from the collection.

Happy viewing!
The Criterion Collection


I thought they had lost the rights to the Clouzot films a year ago; I snapped the ones I didn't have up then.  I think the only one of these other titles that I'm missing that I want is The White Sheik, so thanks for the tip.
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Ted Sturgeon got it right: 80% of everything is crap.

Only 80%?
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Ted Sturgeon got it right: 80% of everything is crap.

Only 80%?


Ted was a great wordsmith. Nearly every literary critic who read his work loved it. He was confronted by a critic once, asking why he insisted on writing nothing but science fiction and fantasy, implying that if Ted would write mainstream fiction he would be a literary success. The critic stated that 80% of science fiction was crap (therefore unworthy of serious discussion). Ted responded quickly with "80% of everything is crap." If we examine only the crap, whether in TV, film, books, music, all art, all creativity, and human action, then we ignore or diminish that 20% which is not crap. Not all of that 20% is high art. But even throw away art is worth noticing. Quality is a bell curve, with the greater and greater in ever diminishing quantities (just as the excretable grows ever diminishing in quantity of what's actually available). It might be infinitely easier to create really bad stuff, but it's infinitely more difficult to get anyone to produce it. People do lose money underestimating people's intelligence.

So, yeah, 20% is worth noticing, if not neccessarily being remembered.
If it wasn't for bad taste, I wouldn't have no taste at all.

Cliff
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