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Your guessing, Ace. You have no support. Ican provide as much dat that indicates it's 1/2/3. if you can provide doc, then do so, don't guess at it.

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I'm not guessing. Her birth name was Robin Virginia Gayle Wright and her parents both had the last name Wright. This is how we can be certain that Wright is, in fact a surname. If you are claiming she changed it to a middle name, then you need to provide evidence of this.

Two wrongs don't make a Wright right? 

I'm the one who put in the parsing today for my copy of Princess Bride.., I see Skip has THREE copies of PB  and has to vote on my contribuition., and madmartian has the same version- he hasn't vote yet either..
My votes so far are 15 for/  0 against for the parsing of Robin Wright Penn ., as we do like to keep the database correct.. why all the arguing??

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Correct according to whom...YOU (no offense). ROFL. But your Contribution is correct. And as noted previously the CLT disregards actual parsing. And if we want to add almost 400 credits for "Santa Barbara", it would be Robin Wright in a runaway. 

Are we trying to impress the actors with all this parsing nonsense, or the crew. I will wager they have a good laugh. What are we after. Do we have some users that want to have "Correct" names sop they can send Birthday and Christmas cards, the only reason that I can see for any interest in "CORRECT" name is for Ancetry prposes and that is not this program. 1/2/3 serves as a relatively neutral default for all the reasons explained, I have seen excatly two arguments for something else. (1) One users claim that there is not a default and (2) other users claiming that we don't do it that way here, wherever"here" happens to be. I have provided an argument vis a vis 1/2/3 being a far more neutral start point. Some body, i dare you, give me an argument why 1//23 is a more neutral start point that does not take into account culture or guessing games based on "Smith" sound like a last name to me. Lee sounds like a last name...so its Tommy//Lee Jones? I can' PROVE Tommy/Lee/Jones but there is also not a single reference that indicate Tommy//Lee Jones would be correct. Or Billy//Bob Thornton...and he acted in a UK movie.

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Some body, i dare you, give me an argument why 1//23 is a more neutral start point that does not take into account culture or guessing games based on "Smith" sound like a last name to me. Lee sounds like a last name...so its Tommy//Lee Jones? I can' PROVE Tommy/Lee/Jones but there is also not a single reference that indicate Tommy//Lee Jones would be correct. Or Billy//Bob Thornton...and he acted in a UK movie.

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Because Wright is her maiden name. Lee and Bob are not the maiden names of the actors.

In my local, she is Robin Wright. I use Credited As for variations. I know, I know. Crazy talk. 

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Frankly this is a discussion which I don.t understand.

There's not much to understand, and it's not a "discussion" either. I'm just observing that it doesn't work. Except maybe in one or two unique cases, the community just can't ever seem to agree on what the parsing for any given name should be. And then there's the huge majority of users that doesn't even visit the forums. As it is, people generally just do as they see fit, meaning that virtually every name consisting of more than two parts (excluding suffixes, prefixes and stage names) has double, non-linking entries in the database. Unless something changes, I don't see that improving at all. There really isn't much to understand about that.

This is extremely annoying, and it actually puts people off from contributing. How? Practical example from today: I have sound editor Karen Baker Landers parsed as K/B/L. I bought a new DVD and the profile I downloaded for it, had her listed as K//B L. I wanted to contribute some much-needed crew corrections to this profile, but I can only get those through without getting no-votes on the "un-documented" change to K/B/L. So I'm now forced to change my K/B/L entry to K//B L for contributing purposes, and then change it back so to cause the same problem for my other profiles with her in it. Again: that's extremely annoying, and once there are five entries like this in a single profile, I assure you that it quickly becomes very attractive to just not bother with the contribution anymore. And this is not rare - I run into this about every other day. There's a limit to the ordeal people will go through to submit some cast/crew additions to a profile - there is for me, at least. I really couldn't care less whether it's K/B/L or K//B L - I'm happy to go either way, as long as everybody does the same, and I don't have to go through this ordeal every time. Surely I shouldn't have to go contacting people's agents every time I encounter a name consisting of more than two parts?

I have this same problem. It would be nice if the contribution system would ignore differences in parsing unless I checked a box and provided documentation (a la uncredited).

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I have this same problem. It would be nice if the contribution system would ignore differences in parsing unless I checked a box and provided documentation (a la uncredited).

Indeed it would.

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That means positively NOTHING. It is not uncommon for women, in the states , to move their maiden name to the middle name slot, so yes you are GUESSING, plain and simple.

And what you are doing is not guessing? I fully admit that i am guessing, but i am guessing based on substantive evidence, such as the movie where she was credited witha  hyphen. You are guessign based on a set of assumptions about the U.S. which are definitely not applicable in all cases. Specific data is always better.

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I am accepting a neutral start point that is easier to move off of with documentation than your guess is.

Please explain how it is easier and/or more likely to be correct? What sort of documentation would be sufficient for you?