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Multiple cuts in one release
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorDanae Cassandra
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Well put, Charlie.
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DVD Profiler Desktop and Mobile RegistrantStar ContributorTaro
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Quoting Jubal:
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Taro:

I have one question for you. Why do you keep lurking about to sling insults?

Show me in this thread where I have insulted you, by quoting a post of mine.

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You say very little that has any substance

How's this for substance then? It's to the point and answers your question:
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These are all valid reasons for using child profiles.
Also, we have a specific field for entering viewing information on which one can easily filter (viewed or not, viewed on which date, who has viewed what, etc). Why would we then use the notes field instead?

For the record, I had to unblock your forum posts because it became impossible to follow the rethoric in certain threads, since 50% of the posts were yours (mostly ramblings trying to prove your point or disprove another user's point, but still it made it difficult to follow the discussion. The PM block I gladly leave.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorNexus the Sixth
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As long as all pertinent data remains in the parent, I have no problem with those wishing to include a "bonus" film.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorbizarre_eye
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2 sides of the story:

Boxset with Child profiles:

- Ichi the Killer EAN: 5032438510337
- Night of the Living Dead EAN: 4009750245866

Single profile with multiple Disc ID's:

- Blade Runner EAN: 7321902208367
- Dawn of the Dead EAN: 013131216790

In fact Ichi the Killer is a combination of the two, with the Disc ID profiles on the parent, as well as being profiled as child profiles.

I, personally wouldn't call any of the above profiles 'wrong' they are all valid profiles accepted by the voting community and the screeners, so I guess it is down to user preference... 
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorcvermeylen
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You can add Close Encounters of the Third Kind: 30th Anniversary Ultimate Edition - UPC 8712609600384 to the list.

Except in my humble opinion, here is at least one invalid entry in the parent profile. The runtime is the combined runtime of the child profiles. It should be the runtime of the longest cut.
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We seem to have a consensus to treat these as bonus feature films, which I neglected to put in the poll. Here's a related question: What if rather than two discs, it's a double-sided disc (example: The Butterfly Effect Infnifilm Edition). Should these be treated the same way?
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorDanae Cassandra
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I would say yes, if the two are different cuts.  If the only difference is widescreen vs. pan&scan then I would not, and would simply check both boxes. 
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorCharlieM
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I would have to agree with Cass.  Each side does have it own disc id, therefore the same would apply.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorT!M
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It should be the runtime of the longest cut.

Not necessarily, though - it's not always that black and white. I've just been told (back on page 2) to put the data of disc one of my 'Almost Famous' 2-disc-set into the parent profile (which is the theatrical version), and to add the (longer!) director's cut on the second disc as a "bonus feature film" child profile. Referring to this thread in my notes, this change has just been approved. Please let's not suggest the longest version ALWAYS goes into the main profile no matter what, because it's going to be really hard to explain to people that you have to profile disc two (clearly labeled as such) in the main profile and add disc one as a "bonus" child profile. It just doesn't seem right in this case, especially as the cover states something like (translated): "Includes director's edition DVD with 33 minutes of extra material". The (shorter) theatrical version on disc one really seems to be the "main feature", and the longer director's cut on the second disc seems to be presented as (part of) the bonus materials.
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I agree with T!M.  The only time we are told to use the longest run time is for branching titles, or those with multiple versions on the same disc.  For sets with multiple versions, on different discs, the parent profile should be for the main feature of the set.
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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar Contributorcvermeylen
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Thanks T!M and Unicus, I learned something new again

So for CE3K, it should should be the runtime of the 1977 theatrical cut, since it's disc 1. But sure should not be the combination of the 3 cuts.
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But sure should not be the combination of the 3 cuts.

That it certainly should not, no.
DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorAce_of_Sevens
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Blade Runner is another example where the longest version definitely isn't the primary.
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