Great site, Tracer. Good luck getting agreement even on OAR,

Let alone discussing Pan & Scam  or FOOLScreen, which do not apply to the new Widescreen TV environment...at least not yet.  Few user truly understand this and even fewer (based on Contributions) understand that a typical 1.85 (generally speaking) film is not going to P&S but FF(FS). Few also have enough material to be able to make any kind of comparison to determine P&S/FF. How many people really know how many different ARs there are for a classic film like Ben-Hur...it's a lot more than a few.  

When this was discussed way back when in the rules discussions, my positiob was simply that this was an area that was far beyond the expertise of most users, discussions such as this only confirm that belief, as does the website that tracer supplied, as wonderful as I think it is. One has to understand the history of each individual film regarding its filming, projection, theaters...everything. Just, for example, the film in question A.I. it's trailers, or least a number of them were projected in 2.35, eyt the film as I recall was projected in 1.85, or at least in the Theater that i consider to be my referencs theater in this area.

This is a debate which will continue as long as there are movies. Good luck, Jim(s)

Skip

General rule without measuring anything: open it on your computer (or a wdiscreen TV with 0 overscan). If it plays in a widescreen window with no bars, it's 1.78. If there are thin bars, it's 1.85. If there are thick bars, it's 2.35. If there are bars on the sides, it's 1.66. Measuring can get you the exact ratio, but that will be close.

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I'm impressed.  The most i own of any one title is four different versions of Serenity.

I'm actually a tad disappointed as this means he was able to get bad data into 5 out of 6 profiles.  Gadgeteer measured the actual image and submitted that data.  What did widescreen do?   

At least I know we still have some good voters here in R1 land.  Thanks guys. 

I'm disappointed as well, but it looks like 2 of those are full-screen profiles so hopefully they weren't part of this type of update. In that case, he only has 3 to correct to 1.78:1.

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I got lost somewhere along this thread but wanted to add (or is it ask) that I've recently changed a few low budget discs AR's from 1.85 to 1.78. All I would put it my notes was something like,
"Changed aspect ratio, verified by my eyes and powerdvd. 1.85 leaves small bars on powerdvd, 1.78 does not, and this disc did not". So far all have been approved.

This got a bit lost in the heat of the discussion... For me your submissions were fine, as you checked them in the computer rather than the TV. That is assuming you used PowerDVD in a windowed and not maximized state...

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I'm impressed.  The most i own of any one title is four different versions of Serenity.

If you look at the UPCs you'll see he only owns three, just submitted several times.

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If you look at the UPCs you'll see he only owns three, just submitted several times.

Doh! I was blinded by the numbers.

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Somebody explain to me why we have users who feel possessed to make changes to copies that they do NOT own and i don't really care what area we are talking about. This kind of behavior on the part of undoubtedly well0meaning is going to take YEARS to fix. This is unbelievable.

Skip

BTW wanted to comment on this, Skip, But as Ken has stated before ( june 15th 2009)., he said
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" As previously stated, contributions to profiles you do not own are not violations of contribution rules."

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Somebody explain to me why we have users who feel possessed to make changes to copies that they do NOT own and i don't really care what area we are talking about. This kind of behavior on the part of undoubtedly well0meaning is going to take YEARS to fix. This is unbelievable.

Skip

BTW wanted to comment on this, Skip, But as Ken has stated before ( june 15th 2009)., he said
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" As previously stated, contributions to profiles you do not own are not violations of contribution rules."

But how can you change the aspect ratio without having the DVD? How would you know what's really on the DVD? This really doesn't make sense to me.

Dirk