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... maybe persons with earned stars shouldn't be limited in any way...

Would this have had any impact on the current problem which started this thread? If the threatening user has a positive reputation, then this idea would not have made a difference.

I can't believe that someone who continously gives valuable input to the community (that's what stars are earned for) would be able to enter upon such a crusade against any other member of the community. That simply does not fit into one single character for me...

Regards, AA

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Though I decided not to intervene anymore on those forums, I feel so much concerned by this thread that I cannot help giving my opinion.

People here are considering negative notes as an unbelievable offense, but most of them said nothing when one user compared another one with people who where, in the past, directly involved in the murder of friends of his own parents. If that could have been forgiven if the user who sent the insult didn't really mean what he said and apologized, but he refused to do that and added that it was precisely what he meant (I would like to know how an American who lost a love in the twin towers would take an insult such as "Al Qaida terrorist"...).

I think that those who are disgusted by such an attitude may easily feel offended when they see posters sending flowers to this nasty man (somebody said kissing his ass...).

It is very easy to lapidate the user that send the PM to Goblinsdoitall, but I fully understand his/her feelings. Peace will not come on those forums with this kind of public lynching, but only when Invelos will take his responsabilities and ban the user who really abused forum rules (see what the rules say about bannable offences and hateful content...), instead of protecting him. Bullying newbies, screaming his opinion, sending insults and blatant lies are the main content of thousands of his useless posts.

PS. I'm not sure that everybody will guess whom I speak of, but I do not want to name him. Anyway, it is not impossible that he might recognize himself  ...

You really need to take this rant somewhere else.  This is not about "him."  This is about a person who was threatening another user via PM's.  It is nice that you have an agenda, this is not the place for it.

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I'm not really sure if a user with a positive reputation would do that... 

I don't think so either, but I don't necessarily think there's a correlation between the two.

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BTW: the referring user does NOT have a positive reputation!

I have no idea who this user is, so I made my comments from that perspective. It seems you have more information that I do, so I'll take your word for it.

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... maybe persons with earned stars shouldn't be limited in any way...

Would this have had any impact on the current problem which started this thread? If the threatening user has a positive reputation, then this idea would not have made a difference.

I can't believe that someone who continously gives valuable input to the community (that's what stars are earned for) would be able to enter upon such a crusade against any other member of the community. That simply does not fit into one single character for me...

Regards, AA

I wouldn't think so either. I agree with you there. I think I just wouldn't want to see any more importance put on a positive reputation. It seems to me that it could discourage users with neutral reputations.

Overall, I think this is an isolated occurrence and Ken has probably already dealt with it in some fashion. I'm not ready to recommend changing the voting status of all users who haven't achieved positive reputations yet simply due to the actions of what is so far hopefully a singular occurrence.

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PS. I'm not sure that everybody will guess whom I speak of, but I do not want to name him. Anyway, it is not impossible that he might recognize himself  ...

You're adding insult to injury by again pinning bad emotions on others rather than apologizing for your deeds!

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It is very easy to lapidate the user that send the PM to Goblinsdoitall, but I fully understand his/her feelings.

You should at least have the balls to take responsibility and not talk of yourself in an anomymized fashion - after all, you're the center of this here debate (if you had stayed away from this thread, I wouldn't have deemed it necessary to call you out, but this attempt at camouflaging yourself is as intolerable as your previous behavior).

What makes your last post even worse is the obvious misleading of the community you acquired, just by reading the last few posts in this thread from northbloke, kahless, Lord of the Sith and kdh1949. You are truly a wolf in sheep's clothing, and IMO should be banned immediately from these forums.

I had all kinds of sympathy for you when you were unfairly and inapproprately attacked and verbally bashed both Skip and Rifter in that thread, but you have turned this matter into something far more ugly by your own doing and have discredited yourself in my book way beyond recovery.

Your latest post is nothing but a clear show of lack of character (again) and proof that you yourself fail to see the wrong in your own actions, something you continously demand others to do.

You're disgusting!

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Are you saying that surfeur51 is the 'Red Arrow' blackmailer?  That is disappointing news. 

That's exactly what I'm saying.

As posted, I wouldn't have made this fact public, but the attempt to generate sympathy for himself by disassociating himself from his actions is something I can't bear to watch silent from the sidelines.

I can, because I asked goblinsdoitall about the user's identity (I'm not in the least interested in dealing with criminal people on a private basis, got enough of that kind in my line of work) when this thing started and he told me it was Yves. The PM is in German and contains some more personal information, but I'm sure that Michael (goblinsdoitall) will validate my posting when asked to do so.

We both thought at that time it wasn't necessary to burn surfeur's nick, as things should be handeled behind the scenes and he could very well re-register under a new alias, and I would've been fine with that (I've had my share of ill-advised postings myself and still stumble across things better left unsaid in my life). But not only couldn't he stay away from the mess he started (kinda like a perpetrator returning to the scene of his crime), he even had to involve himself and campaign for himself from the shadows, riding on the still felt sympathy towards him by the community for what happened months ago.

The hypocrisy and misleading of the community that occured I can't and won't tolerate silently against better knowledge.

If I'm out of bounds by calling him out in some people's books, fine, but at least I have a clean conscience now.

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If I'm out of bounds by calling him out in some people's books, fine, but at least I have a clean conscience now.

In this particular case, it would seem appropriate.  Frankly, I have my doubts as to whether Ken would actually ban the user in question for any significant length of time, so now we can take any future posts from this user with the grain of salt so obviously needed.

The whole affair sounds mighty lame. I'd like to know who the user is too, but I guess it really doesn't matter in the end.