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The difference Kathy, is that I am looking for ways to work within the rules, not try to poke holes in them to suit some personal agenda or other. I am naming no one but there are several such users. Even mire interesting is that these people who have poked enough holes to make the rules look like a wheell of jarlsberg, have little or no background or knowledge if how the rules were developed, why or anything else. They jus think they know, evenn one who likes to refer to ken could do this or that. Most of the rules are exactly as they were conceived and written years ago. Maybe that should tell something but it doesn't, those users who think they know have no idea and while I wish it were differentj, sadly many people will continue operating in a  mist if their own making, oblivious to all but their own clyelessness. Makes me very sad.

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The difference Kathy, is that I am looking for ways to work within the rules, not try to poke holes in them to suit some personal agenda or other.

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...have little or no background or knowledge if how the rules were developed, why or anything else...

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Most of the rules are exactly as they were conceived and written years ago.

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a  mist if their own making, oblivious to all but their own clyelessness. 

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Makes me very sad 

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...How can thousands of users depend on the word of a single user against what the data said.... As I see it, we have one option that I think works with both the word and spirit ofvthe rules.

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Need I remind everyone that the rules do indeed spell out where we get data from. Start at page one if you font believe. If both the episode list and the disc menu are the same, so be it. You do not have the ability to decide what is or is nit correct or where the days comes from, the rules are cleat. Kathy please stop undermining them. Read them from the top and stop trying to excuse things out of context. Now if you wish to ask ken to rule on it himself  then what he chooses to do is cool, not your job.

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Kathy

Your last comment has me laughiing hysterically. My answer is the same as always, you have but to ask. I have never kept it a secret, sadly some users like to attack me over it. I will only say that if the shoe was on someone's foot but mine, I would be asking that person questions to try and understand what the designer was envisioning I would not attack, nor would I make some of the other utterly specious comments which others have kade

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Sorry Skip but I'm not buying it.  I don't know about your involvement in the creation of the rules and frankly I don't care.  The discussion was civil until your unprovoked attack.  if you and kathy had issues in the past then leave them there, in the past.  Going on the attack for no reason isn't helpful.

As far as the topic at hand, I agree with pretty much everyone else.  The rules say "The authoritative source for information submitted should be the DVD itself."  Not the packaging but the DVD.