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DVD Profiler Unlimited RegistrantStar ContributorJimmy S
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I think the point that most people on boards like this miss is, while you and I might be concerned about quality loss, the target audience, i.e. the rest of the world, doesn't even notice.  They watch their movies on their phones, for god's sake.


Spot on. That's why streaming is steamrolling and is the way of the future, like it or not.

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Umm...I'm guessing that anybody who even looks at a board dedicated to DVD collection software is, by definition, attached to their discs.  Just because some of us recognize reality doesn't mean we're itching to get rid of our discs.
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Umm...I'm guessing that anybody who even looks at a board dedicated to DVD collection software is, by definition, attached to their discs.  Just because some of us recognize reality doesn't mean we're itching to get rid of our discs.


You think any vinyl collectors did ether? DvD despite it being more vulnerable to damage will go on to have  huge collectors market.
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I used to be able to sell my DVDs to Blockbuster/Cast Convertors for anything from £1-£5 depending on the age of the film.
Over time that price has dropped.

Now, Blockbuster offer between 10p upwards and most stuff (unless it's a new release) you only get between 20p-40p.
Cash Convertors were offering 60p per DVD, but that recently dropped to 40p.

I have found the only way to make any money on DVDs is eBay, and ONLY if the film is rare or very popular.


Not sure what the conversion is, but I buy used DVDs in my shop every day.  And we don't pay anything near what we used to.  We used to pay between $1-$5 generally.  But DVDs are so common anymore and people are bringing them in by the dozens to sell off.  Often I hear the "streaming" or "on demand" or "Netflix" as the reasoning - that, or needing money for gas or cigarettes.  Or they'll try to feed you a sob story about needing to buy diapers or formula, when you can tell they're going to blow the money on drugs.  Just once I want someone to come in and say, "I need to sell these so I can buy more weed."  That guy's gonna get a good offer just for being honest.

Now, on most stuff we pay between 5 and 25 cents.  Rare or desirable movies we pay between $1 and $3.

If it came out this week or last week we pay between 3-5 dollars.

DVDs just aren't worth what they used to be.  And neither are blu-ray.  When they first came out, we were paying $5 a piece.  With Wal-Mart selling lots of titles for $10, it's down to $2-$3 on a great majority of blu-ray titles as well.
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There is no way that that DVD/Blu-rays/whatever ultra-high-quality format comes along will be "gone" in 9 years. VCRs are still sold (albeit as VCR/DVD combo s now) and that format was pushed out how many years ago? I still use mine to record things for single viewing rather than spending money on a DVR.

While streaming has its benefits, there are far too many who want a physical disc that they purchase once and can watch it over and over rather than pay-per-view, any DRM-esque crap, or concerns that the site from whom you purchased an unlimited-viewing license could goes belly up.
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Well considering how many people are watching their content on their televisions with the original factory settings, stretched out and over-processed like a bad video game, how many of them do you think really notice quality?

Exactly how many people are doing that?  I mean, if we have to consider the number, we have to know what that number is, don't we?

Oh wait, was that hyperbole? 
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Film buffs will find a way (and the same goes for TV fans). When Jay Knowles (Father Geek, the dad of Harry Knowles of Ain't It Cool News) wanted films that he loved, he bought 16 mm films and had a couple projectors so he could show film without breaks. When I returned to college, film freaks were buying color video cameras and 3/4" U-Matic VCRs and they taped the 16 mm films the college rented for classes. These film fans still have the 16 mm prints and projectors and converted the videos to DVDs.

If I want to watch a film at 2 am, I do not want to wait for it to download, and streaming still causes huge pauses in the system. Unless downloading becomes far faster, and hard drives get thousands of times bigger, most of us DVD/Blu-ray collectors will use our disks. The casual users of media will enjoy streaming and downloading. And there are far more of them than there are of us.

Someone will fill our needs, but it will not be inexpensive and the idea that we can resell our media at a profit is foolish. We just buy what we want and enjoy it until we die or they find another medium to suit our needs.
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Film buffs will find a way (and the same goes for TV fans). When Jay Knowles (Father Geek, the dad of Harry Knowles of Ain't It Cool News) wanted films that he loved, he bought 16 mm films and had a couple projectors so he could show film without breaks. When I returned to college, film freaks were buying color video cameras and 3/4" U-Matic VCRs and they taped the 16 mm films the college rented for classes. These film fans still have the 16 mm prints and projectors and converted the videos to DVDs.

If I want to watch a film at 2 am, I do not want to wait for it to download, and streaming still causes huge pauses in the system. Unless downloading becomes far faster, and hard drives get thousands of times bigger, most of us DVD/Blu-ray collectors will use our disks. The casual users of media will enjoy streaming and downloading. And there are far more of them than there are of us.

Someone will fill our needs, but it will not be inexpensive and the idea that we can resell our media at a profit is foolish. We just buy what we want and enjoy it until we die or they find another medium to suit our needs.


I agree 100% there will always be some medium to suit us. When I want to buy a movie I want to have it physically in my possession not stored somewhere on a computer. If something happens the computer goes down or Internet connection is lost I want to be able to watch any movie I own. I'll stop collecting when they plant me 6ft under
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Film buffs will find a way (and the same goes for TV fans). When Jay Knowles (Father Geek, the dad of Harry Knowles of Ain't It Cool News) wanted films that he loved, he bought 16 mm films and had a couple projectors so he could show film without breaks. When I returned to college, film freaks were buying color video cameras and 3/4" U-Matic VCRs and they taped the 16 mm films the college rented for classes. These film fans still have the 16 mm prints and projectors and converted the videos to DVDs.

If I want to watch a film at 2 am, I do not want to wait for it to download, and streaming still causes huge pauses in the system. Unless downloading becomes far faster, and hard drives get thousands of times bigger, most of us DVD/Blu-ray collectors will use our disks. The casual users of media will enjoy streaming and downloading. And there are far more of them than there are of us.

Someone will fill our needs, but it will not be inexpensive and the idea that we can resell our media at a profit is foolish. We just buy what we want and enjoy it until we die or they find another medium to suit our needs.


I agree 100% there will always be some medium to suit us. When I want to buy a movie I want to have it physically in my possession not stored somewhere on a computer. If something happens the computer goes down or Internet connection is lost I want to be able to watch any movie I own. I'll stop collecting when they plant me 6ft under


Same here. Streaming is not 100% reliable. NetFlix has a tendancy to go down every-so-often. And when they do, they offer to give me a discount for that day...whoopty-freakn-do. The only reason I use NetFlix is when my own unwatched list is down to zero and then only to watch old movies or TV series that I have no desire to own.
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Well considering how many people are watching their content on their televisions with the original factory settings, stretched out and over-processed like a bad video game, how many of them do you think really notice quality?

Exactly how many people are doing that?  I mean, if we have to consider the number, we have to know what that number is, don't we?

Oh wait, was that hyperbole? 


Oh give me a break here Martian.  Most of us here are related to someone who does this. 
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Film buffs will find a way (and the same goes for TV fans). When Jay Knowles (Father Geek, the dad of Harry Knowles of Ain't It Cool News) wanted films that he loved, he bought 16 mm films and had a couple projectors so he could show film without breaks. When I returned to college, film freaks were buying color video cameras and 3/4" U-Matic VCRs and they taped the 16 mm films the college rented for classes. These film fans still have the 16 mm prints and projectors and converted the videos to DVDs.

If I want to watch a film at 2 am, I do not want to wait for it to download, and streaming still causes huge pauses in the system. Unless downloading becomes far faster, and hard drives get thousands of times bigger, most of us DVD/Blu-ray collectors will use our disks. The casual users of media will enjoy streaming and downloading. And there are far more of them than there are of us.

Someone will fill our needs, but it will not be inexpensive and the idea that we can resell our media at a profit is foolish. We just buy what we want and enjoy it until we die or they find another medium to suit our needs.


I agree 100%.  There will always be discs for as long as there is a market for them.  Someone will step up and fill that niche.  The problem of course, will be that they will become more expensive, or rather no longer discounted, and there's still going to be the challenge of hoping the title you want makes it out as the format becomes more of a niche market.
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I think the point that most people on boards like this miss is, while you and I might be concerned about quality loss, the target audience, i.e. the rest of the world, doesn't even notice.  They watch their movies on their phones, for god's sake.


Spot on. That's why streaming is steamrolling and is the way of the future, like it or not.

I accept DVD care package® too if you want to upgrade your collection as streaming only  

DVD care package is a registered expression belonging to our good friend Pete of course


 

NO!

mdnitoil summed it up:

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  Just because some of us recognize reality doesn't mean we're itching to get rid of our discs.


I'm not saying I like this inevitable future, but I know it's coming.

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There is no way that that DVD/Blu-rays/whatever ultra-high-quality format comes along will be "gone" in 9 years. VCRs are still sold (albeit as VCR/DVD combo s now) and that format was pushed out how many years ago? I still use mine to record things for single viewing rather than spending money on a DVR.


That's true, but how many new releases are on the VHS format?

They still sell record players, too, but how many new vinyl releases are there from non-indie label each week?

They'll make the players for years I suspect, it's the movies they'll eventually stop releasing.

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While streaming has its benefits, there are far too many who want a physical disc that they purchase once and can watch it over and over rather than pay-per-view, any DRM-esque crap, or concerns that the site from whom you purchased an unlimited-viewing license could goes belly up.


Honestly, within my circle of friends, it's me and one other person who really collects movies. None of my other friends buy DVDs. They either stream or rent dvds. Of that, half stream, half get DVDs.

Don't get me wrong, I definitely prefer Blu over stream, but the majority of people don't care about the quality that film lovers want. Sadly we are in the minority.
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That's true, but how many new releases are on the VHS format?

Wasn't an horror movie released last year on VHS? I'm sure I've read that somewhere...

But even if I remember well that doesn't change the fact that your argument is right
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House of the Devil!

It was an LE that I wanted to buy, but I couldn't justify it.
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House of the Devil!

It was an LE that I wanted to buy, but I couldn't justify it.


http://www.amazon.com/House-Devil-VHS-DVD-Bundle/dp/B003360JKY

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While streaming has its benefits, there are far too many who want a physical disc that they purchase once and can watch it over and over rather than pay-per-view, any DRM-esque crap, or concerns that the site from whom you purchased an unlimited-viewing license could goes belly up.


Honestly, within my circle of friends, it's me and one other person who really collects movies. None of my other friends buy DVDs. They either stream or rent dvds. Of that, half stream, half get DVDs.


Right there with you.  I'm really the only hardcore collector among my friends.  And the split is about the same, half of my friends are renters (Redbox) and the other half watch stuff "On Demand" from their cable.  They all think I'm crazy with the size of my DVD collection.
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