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These looters are just scum and should be shot on site to join him.

Socially progressive as ever

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I wonder how "socially progressive" you'd be if it is YOUR DVD collection that's being stolen and the place where YOU live that's being ransacked and burnt down.

But of course! Anyone who steals your DVDs should be shot on site! Because cowboy justice is the only real justice we can tolerate. 

Pay attention amateurs: this is how you troll an entire country:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2011/aug/10/uk-riots-iran-un-mahmoud-ahmadinejad


History matters. Those who ignore history are doomed to repeat it. Watts, Newark, Detroit... all considered:
http://historymatters.gmu.edu/d/6545/

Quoting VirtualScot:

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You can't make choices unless your given options.

You either steal electronics and loot or you don't.
You mug people or you don't.
You firebomb buildings or you don't.

There is always an option. They aren't doing this because they don't have an option, they are doing this for personal gain and 'for a laugh'.

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Because there's no other way for them to gain anything. You ether have it or you don't.

There is always a way. It's called being part of the wider picture, working hard, and buying it. Again, if they were stealing food to feed their family, I can see your point, but they are not. To try and say they do it because of lack of morals is completely correct but that doesn't mean that they don't know the difference between right and wrong they just CHOOSE to ignore it just like they CHOOSE to riot. Thankfully they don't get to choose what will happen to them.

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You can't make choices unless your given options.

You either steal electronics and loot or you don't.
You mug people or you don't.
You firebomb buildings or you don't.

There is always an option. They aren't doing this because they don't have an option, they are doing this for personal gain and 'for a laugh'.

You mean like:
You can either ruin the social system of a complete state or leave it intact.
You can either force Ethopia to grow flowers on the remains of fertile land or let them grow millet so that they have something to eat.
You can either found a bank or find other ways of ruining world wide economics?

Sorry, sometimes I wonder where the REAL criminals might be.

Sure, it's bad what is currently happening in GB. But what we see are the results of:
- Reducing police forces to a minimum (and still announcing further reductions as I heard today). So that the police doesn't have the resources anymore for preventive measures.

- Reducing the money for measures to integrate socially underprivileged. Which over time leads to groups that don't feel like they are part of the society anymore.

Or in other words: If you switch of all security systems, don't say "Oooops" when the whole thing blows up.

This doesn't help those people that are/were being robbed, plundered or whatever. But another sad truth is, that it's never the people who caused the problems that have to pay for it.

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People make choices in life. If these people were stealing a loaf of bread for their family because they live on the streets or cannot afford to feed them, I would have a bit of compassion but they are not. They are stealing for the sake of stealing. I hope they get gang raped in jail.

I wonder how you lefties would react had they looted your business, firebombed your residence when your family are inside, took everything you have worked for and beat up your family? If it is going to happen to someone, I hope it happens to the people who seem to stick up for these people who are nothing but thieves.

You can't make choices unless your given options. When you push one element of society so far away form accepted norm and have no way out, disorder is more or less the result. These things just don't come out of thin air. Your solution is medieval and just as bad as what lead to this.

You rightys created a society where the greedier you are the better. Personally im nether left or right.

The vast majority of poor people are decent and law abiding. Being poor doesn't automatically make you a criminal. Have more respect for them.

people who become criminals have made a choice to do that

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Because there's no other way for them to gain anything. You ether have it or you don't.

There is always a way. It's called being part of the wider picture, working hard, and buying it. Again, if they were stealing food to feed their family, I can see your point, but they are not. To try and say they do it because of lack of morals is completely correct but that doesn't mean that they don't know the difference between right and wrong they just CHOOSE to ignore it just like they CHOOSE to riot. Thankfully they don't get to choose what will happen to them.

And what happens to them is important. A punitive society will only breed punitive people. It's not addressing the core issues surrounding why this happen by punishing them. You can ether make them greater enemies of society or bring them into society.

The greatest resource a country has is it's people.

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Wow. Defending the looters as if they have no choice but to loot and aren't doing it for personal gain. 

I'm with Sam on this 100%. These jackasses are looting small businesses and burning for the sake of burning. If this was your town or your business, you would definitely have a different opinion on what to do with this trash instead of hugging it out.

I have had this happen before when a group of 30 chavs decided it be fun to throw fireworks at my parents house, and neighbours. Being well versed in unarmed combat i proceeded to go outside grabbed one them by the hood.

And then put my thumb in his eye and a finger behind his ear, screaming in pain pulling him into a head lock. Jabbed at his eye with my thumb nail making the screaming a lot more blood curdling. By this time his so called mates freaked out, and made a run for it.

If they had caused damage to the house, i would have been very angry. But im not a total self absorbed selfish idiot as you seem to be and demand blood. I be happier seeing those kids go on to get decent jobs than rotting in a jail for my own sick amusement.