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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 4,596 |
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miss BD-Live?
Never thought id see these two words in the same sentence. Tell me about it. BD-Live is a joke. It takes forever to load and usually consists of nothing more than advertising for the Studios. | | | | My WebGenDVD online Collection |
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| Registered: May 19, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 6,730 |
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miss BD-Live?
Never thought id see these two words in the same sentence.   | | | It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 |  Posts: 2,692 |
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I rarely watch any extras on discs i purchase. I'm interested in a quality film image and sound. If my rental costs are reduced because i get a film only version that's fine by me. I will be a happy consumer.
Even if you miss BD-Live? who cares about BD-Live? | | | | Paul |
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| Registered: March 18, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 2,550 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting pauls42: Quote:
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I rarely watch any extras on discs i purchase. I'm interested in a quality film image and sound. If my rental costs are reduced because i get a film only version that's fine by me. I will be a happy consumer.
Even if you miss BD-Live?
who cares about BD-Live? Yeag, on paper it was an interesting concept but very rarely has it been useful. I've used a couple a times for live commentaries (one with Downy Jr. and others for Sherlock Holmes, albeit that one fell flat due to technical difficulties and the other with Daniel Radcliffe and a producer for one of the HP movies). |
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| Registered: February 23, 2009 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 1,580 |
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A BD that loads in under 5 minutes? Sold.  You should come to my house then. ALL Blu-rays load in less than a minute. Don't know why I read on fora sometimes people complaining about BD's loading slowly. Different equipment, different loading times perhaps? As for BD Live, I think it is/was very interesting as a concept: live commentaries, group screenings, auto-updating trailers, extra info, extra features. You name it. The possibilities are endless. The problem is that studios don't take enough advantage of it or don't use it to its full potential. A few examples that come to mind that did get it right: - Transformers: you could download extra featurettes, extra menu layouts, etc - The Dark Knight: I believe there was a live screening with the director | | | Blu-ray collection
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| Registered: June 21, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 2,621 |
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A BD that loads in under 5 minutes? Sold.
You should come to my house then. ALL Blu-rays load in less than a minute. Don't know why I read on fora sometimes people complaining about BD's loading slowly. Different equipment, different loading times perhaps?
The player makes all the difference. I had close to 5 minute load tiems on my cheap Magnavox player and thought that was what it is. Then I read there is better way and picked up a cheap Sony player, which loads nearly everything under a minute. Even the worst discs that would take 5 minutes plus on the Mag (Hatchet and Frozen, not sure why but it hates AB/Starz) are done in well under 2 now. All this is without BDlive FWIW, no web connection for either player ever. | | | | Last edited: by bigdaddyhorse |
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| Registered: October 6, 2008 | | Posts: 1,932 |
| | Posted: | | | | ^ 'twas a slight exaggeration on my part. I think I had 1 disc take about 5 minutes--Disney, if I'm not mistaken--but most are under 2 (on my cheap Panny). But the Blu-ray Live stuff I've tried to do takes an eternity to run (if it ever does) and underwhelms to say the least. |
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| Registered: May 8, 2007 | | Posts: 823 |
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Like others, I'm happy that if I rent I wouldn't get the full set. So, you see a movie in the theater. Four or five months later, an extended unrated version comes out. You go to a rental store and see it costs a pound to rent, but, it isn't the extended unrated version. It's theatrical. If you want to see the extended unrated version, you have to pay 12 - 15 pounds to buy it. That makes you (and others) happy. Do I have that correct? | | | | 99.9% of all cat plans consist only of "Step 1." |
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| Registered: May 8, 2007 | | Posts: 823 |
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So, because we don't agree with your opinion, we are brainwashed and want to be abused? Talk about trolling. If all you wanted was a bunch of people to agree with you, you probably shouldn't have posted. I would be willing to bet that if policy were gradually changed to make movie only retail discs that cost $20 and separate retail discs that contain extras and unrated/extended versions cost $50, that would be just fine with you. | | | | 99.9% of all cat plans consist only of "Step 1." |
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| Registered: May 8, 2007 | | Posts: 823 |
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What I would consider a low blow from the studios is if, for $1 at RedBox, you could get the exact same product I have to spend $20 on. Bottom line, a consumer who pays less should expect to get less. If you want the extras, you have to pay for them.
Edit: I see everybody seems to be on the same page here. The other thing that's interesting is "rental movie only" discs are a more recent invention. They only started showing up in the past few years. So this was actually something that was taken away from consumers. Yet, here you are as usual, meticulously picking apart posts via quotes and making all sorts of indirect insinuations and assumptions mixed with your opinions as the cold hard matter of fact truth. | | | | 99.9% of all cat plans consist only of "Step 1." | | | | Last edited: by Grendell |
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 742 |
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Like others, I'm happy that if I rent I wouldn't get the full set.
So, you see a movie in the theater. Four or five months later, an extended unrated version comes out. You go to a rental store and see it costs a pound to rent, but, it isn't the extended unrated version. It's theatrical. If you want to see the extended unrated version, you have to pay 12 - 15 pounds to buy it.
That makes you (and others) happy.
Do I have that correct? If the rental cover says "theatrical cut" (or doesn't mention the extended version at all), yes, I'd be happy, as I'm getting what I pay for. I think you have to regard the rental process and the "happiness" associated with it seperately from the "happiness" regarding business and / or marketing decisions by the industry and the resale people at rental stores. Do I like the differences between rental and retail versions of DVD in general? No, I don't. But just like the "extended versions" mentioned, studios and distributors have been luring people like us to double dip for years. I wouldn't be happy about the extended version only released for retail, but these days, most DVDs drop significantly within a few weeks or months, so regarding movies I don't care enough about to buy at retail to begin with but rent, waiting isn't that hard, or is it? BTW, what about the release of extended versions only on blu? That's even worse, as w/out the upgrade to the "new" technology you don't have the chance to see the extended cut at all, neither from rental or retail stores (Law Abiding Citizen, Sucker Punch etc.). THAT is really annoying, especially when, as in my town, the rental place has both versions next to each other on the same shelf... BTW, this surely is reason enough to set up seperate profiles for retail and rental versions of the same title, as long as the UPC differs? Maybe adding an entry to the edition field could warn more people of the dangers of rental discs... | | | | Lutz | | | | Last edited: by Darxon |
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| Registered: May 19, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,730 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Grendell: Quote:
The other thing that's interesting is "rental movie only" discs are a more recent invention. They only started showing up in the past few years. So this was actually something that was taken away from consumers. [...] And so what?? Use your power as consumer: If you don't like the product, don't buy it. It's as easy as that. BTW: If you don't want to see the difference between a retail and a rental version (which isn't supposed to be sold to consumers in the first place) I'm not sure if it makes any sense of trying to tell you about it. I really hope that you'll never find out about "Blade Runner" which currently is available in at least 4 versions (Pre-Theatrical, Theatrical, Director's and (so-called) Final Cut). And under all circumstances avoid to turn on your TV! You'll probably get a heart-attack when you find out that not only there are absolutely no extras (not even original audio), but that movies even get cut to be able to air them at prime-time. | | | It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?
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| Registered: March 14, 2007 | | Posts: 5,734 |
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I rarely watch any extras on discs i purchase. I'm interested in a quality film image and sound. If my rental costs are reduced because i get a film only version that's fine by me. I will be a happy consumer. Quality film image and sound aside... rental discs do not come with a Digital Copy! | | | | Don't confuse while the film is playing with when the film is played. [Ken Cole, DVD Profiler Architect] |
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| Registered: June 12, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,665 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Grendell: Quote:
So, you see a movie in the theater. Four or five months later, an extended unrated version comes out. You go to a rental store and see it costs a pound to rent, but, it isn't the extended unrated version. It's theatrical. If you want to see the extended unrated version, you have to pay 12 - 15 pounds to buy it.
That makes you (and others) happy.
Do I have that correct? You seems troubled that what defines happiness for you is different for others. Extras features and extended versions are not value-added options for me. I will never feel their loss when renting a disc that doesn't contain them. I understand that you do. But you will never get everyone marching on the rental stores with flaming torches and anger. There are too many people with too many different levels of satisfaction. This is Economics 101. | | | | Bad movie? You're soaking in it! |
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| Registered: June 12, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 2,665 |
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I rarely watch any extras on discs i purchase. I'm interested in a quality film image and sound. If my rental costs are reduced because i get a film only version that's fine by me. I will be a happy consumer.
Quality film image and sound aside... rental discs do not come with a Digital Copy! I can't tell if you are trying to be a subtle wit (it's too subtle) or serious (in which case i don't understand your point.) | | | | Bad movie? You're soaking in it! |
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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 2,692 |
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Like others, I'm happy that if I rent I wouldn't get the full set.
So, you see a movie in the theater. Four or five months later, an extended unrated version comes out. You go to a rental store and see it costs a pound to rent, but, it isn't the extended unrated version. It's theatrical. If you want to see the extended unrated version, you have to pay 12 - 15 pounds to buy it.
That makes you (and others) happy.
Do I have that correct? at last you understand and I'm pleased that we are, at last, all on the same page. | | | | Paul |
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