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... So the above structure [TV series title]: Season [#] is fine by me. ...

It's not always Season 1. The statement was to translate the Title. So it can be also First Season in some cases or different. (like explained by someone else in this thread, I think) So this doesn't help very much for less differences.

What decides whether it's First Season or Season 1? Why don't we just keep it simple and use a structure as proposed in the first post? The season descriptor is in most cases not in the opening title of each episode.

Only the series title in the original title field is for CLT not possible because many TV series also have a movie in the series. The X-Files, Buffy the Vampire Slayer and Sex and the City are just a few examples. The credits of the series would get mingled with the movie credits.

From how I read Gerri's post it would be which ever is on the case. if it said Season X that is what we use. If it said the Complete X Season... then that is what we use.

I get it that for translated TV series titles the original title of that series must go into the Original Title field. But that won't solve the CLT problem because the season descriptor is still in the language of that locality. The season descriptor could even differ from one locality to the other when it's in the same language. For instance many UK DVD releases uses "Series" as indicator for the seasons of American TV Series.

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And until then Tim?

Have I suggested anywhere that we change what we're doing right now? Or that I personally would start handling this differently? You seem to think that I did, but that's really not the case. Better yet: my suggestion requires a program change, so even if I wanted to - which I don't - I couldn't start applying it right now. Again: I want to move all season and/or disc indicators to a new field of their own. We don't have that field right now - that's the whole problem - so the only thing I can do until then, is to follow Gerri's directions you referred to earlier. Again: at no point have I even hinted that I wouldn't follow those directions. I don't even see any alternative that works within the current system. So rest assured: there's nothing to worry about... 

I'm just offering my suggestion for how to solve this problem in a future program version. That's all.

That's my intention for this topic. Getting a solution for this problem. Meaning an addition to the program like T!M is suggesting or an extension of the rules for the use of the original title field of TV series. Or is there another solution?

Okay that's a relieve. Thanks for clearing that!

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Absolutely agree, Pete.. Series in the States applies to the entire run of the show, 1, 2, 3 or more Seasons. I won't argue the European method of series, it's simply the way they do it, and that's fine. but don't apply Euro standards across the board...hmmm this sounds familiar.

Generalizing that's what some others do...

The term 'Series' is used in the UK, but not in all other European countries. In The Netherlands it's common to use 'Season' (the Dutch translation that is)...

I personally would just be happy to drop the disc indicator.

To me, seasons are released as a single unit. They're aired, in a sense, as a whole unit made up of smaller parts during their original runs on television. So to me, I've always felt that one season = one credit (since what we're really talking about is how badly this fraks up the CLT counts). Of course that's just a personal opinion and of course others may have differing views.

However I feel that if the season indicator is kept, and the disc indicator is dropped (in the original title field) it would stop seasons and movies from getting mixed up as well. Some examples were already mentioned, like Buffy the Vampire Slayer & The X-Files. There's also series like Miami Vice, The Dukes of Hazzards, MASH, 10 Things I Hate About You, Starsky and Hutch, Charlies Angles, The Mod Squad, Lost in Space, The Fugitive, Mission Impossible, Get Smart, Bewitched, The Adams Family, Scooby-Doo, The Flintstones, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles....

Those are just the ones I can think of off the top of my head. I'm sure there's many more.

So dropping the disc indicator and having a standard way of entering shows in the original title field (such as one described in the first post of this thread) but keeping the season indicator would basically eliminate the mass amount of duplicate/incorrect/redudant titles in the CLT, but allow for separation of tv and film adaptations (or vice versa). The only compromise would be one season = one credit, which is basically how we do things anyway.

Just thinking out loud.

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I personally would just be happy to drop the disc indicator.

To me, seasons are released as a single unit. They're aired, in a sense, as a whole unit made up of smaller parts during their original runs on television. So to me, I've always felt that one season = one credit (since what we're really talking about is how badly this fraks up the CLT counts). Of course that's just a personal opinion and of course others may have differing views.

However I feel that if the season indicator is kept, and the disc indicator is dropped (in the original title field) it would stop seasons and movies from getting mixed up as well. Some examples were already mentioned, like Buffy the Vampire Slayer & The X-Files. There's also series like Miami Vice, The Dukes of Hazzards, MASH, 10 Things I Hate About You, Starsky and Hutch, Charlies Angles, The Mod Squad, Lost in Space, The Fugitive, Mission Impossible, Get Smart, Bewitched, The Adams Family, Scooby-Doo, The Flintstones, Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles....

Those are just the ones I can think of off the top of my head. I'm sure there's many more.

So dropping the disc indicator and having a standard way of entering shows in the original title field (such as one described in the first post of this thread) but keeping the season indicator would basically eliminate the mass amount of duplicate/incorrect/redudant titles in the CLT, but allow for separation of tv and film adaptations (or vice versa). The only compromise would be one season = one credit, which is basically how we do things anyway.

Just thinking out loud.

That's how I feel about it as well. Nicely said!

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Unless I am misunderstanding we need disc indicators in original title field for the same reason we would need season indicators. The people that uses original titles for the list would have multiple releases in the list with the same exact title.

I'm totally dense on this. I'm not sure I understand what you mean when you say the people that use original titles for the list.

Like I change my DVD Title to match the original title field? Or is there a way to have the original title field displayed that I just don't know of? Is that what you're referring to?

Sorry... don't mean to be dumb! 

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Unless I am misunderstanding we need disc indicators in original title field for the same reason we would need season indicators. The people that uses original titles for the list would have multiple releases in the list with the same exact title.

I'm totally dense on this. I'm not sure I understand what you mean when you say the people that use original titles for the list.

Like I change my DVD Title to match the original title field? Or is there a way to have the original title field displayed that I just don't know of? Is that what you're referring to?

Sorry... don't mean to be dumb! 

From what I understand... I don't use it myself... but here is a place in options to show your list (your main list of dvds in the program) as the original title instead of what is used in the title field. And because of this the people that use that option would need both the season indicator and disc indicator in original title field or they will have multiple listings with the same exact title.

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