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And as I said, NO conditional, we either list Music Supervisors or we don't.

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Reybr:

I find your response to be self-serving and disappointing.

But I thought the online db was supposed to serve all users.     

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I don't understand how that doesn't make him a composer.

The problem is that DVD Profiler has a nasty tendency to not to track what someone actually did, but to merely track (or leave out) the label that he's given by the credits. As soon as the filmmakers give the Supervising Sound Editor a Supervising Sound Effects Editor label, then poof! Suddenly the guy doesn't get a credit in our database anymore, even though he performed the exact same job. Same with the special effects guys: on one film, they're credited as a group of "Special Effects", and they're entered, and on the next film, they're credited as "Special Effects Technicians", and they're out. On the other hand, some people will happily enter a TV show's story editor as a film editor when he's credited on-screen as the "Supervising Editor". I see examples like this every single day. It's all very unfortunate, and I try my best to fix what I can, but I'm guessing that it boils down to the fact that a set of rules that actually allow all the right people in while leaving all the wrong people out is pretty much impossible to write. Especially with the same labels being used to describe different jobs over the years.

As it stands, I think the best thing would indeed be more conditionals, so that we could allow a "Music Supervisor" only if there's nobody else credited for the score. Same for the costume department: only add one of the "lesser" credits when there's no actual "costume designer" credit, and so on. Anything like that, I would wholeheartedly support, but I'd hate to see something that would cause users to award an equal "composer" credit to thousands of today's Music Supervisors. If that's our choice - all of them in, or all of them out - then I'd rather leave them out, and I'd track those that I personally knew to be valid locally.

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It's not hard at all, but does it make any sense? Not in my opinion. Good thing is that the rules allow it to be entered.

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Yes but Reybr's point is that the Music Supervisor used to. And from the tone of his posts I believe that's the only time Reybr intends to contribute them.

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All I can say on this matter... all this does is push me further and further from doing crew data. Every time I think I get to slightly understand any of it... something else pops up and confuses me even more.

I still think the only way to make it easy enough for everyone to contribute the data is give use a text field to type in the crew role... instead of trying to fit all this stuff into the roles we have now.