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| Registered: March 13, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 6,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Kathy: Quote:
Until then, like many other areas of disagreement, we must follow the rules that Ken has in place. Hate to rain on your parade, but it's actually not in the Rules. Until Ken actually puts it in the Rules, or points to the thread in question from the Rules, it's nothing more than a forum discussion. | | | | Hal | | | | Last edited: by hal9g |
| | Registered: May 29, 2007 | Reputation:  | | Posts: 3,475 |
| | Posted: | | | | Hal,
When I go to the rules regarding the issue of Case Types I am directed to: http://invelos.com/Forums.aspx?task=viewtopic&topicID=373552.
I thought that, because the rules specifically send me there, that Ken considers that a part of the rules. Am I wrong to believe that is so?
As far as your comment "hate to rain on your parade..." I don't understand what you mean. | | | | Last edited: by Kathy |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Hal:
I understand what you are saying. BUT I have a problem with two different definitions for what IS the same case, the only difference being the content. To me that is irrational and just plain stupid. II will NOT follow any Rule that provides more than one answer like this, I have explained that and i have also explained that that uis the way i do it locally, and further that i don't contribute case data, nor will I accept data such as this which i consider to be garbage. I understand what ken said , what i don't understand is the why, you set up a situation that the same thing carries two different possibilities and the difference is content....No, I tried to get an explanation of that logic when he made the comment. It made no sense at the time and continues to make no sense. | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
Billy Video |
| | Registered: May 19, 2007 | Reputation:  |  Posts: 6,730 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting northbloke: Quote:
Just a reminder that this thread still exists, and was signed off by Ken when it was created. I especially liked this part (bold by me): Quote:
The parent profile is a digipak with slip cover ticked, the child profiles are digipak. Do not tick the slip cover checkbox on the child profiles. Ken's (the ultimate ruler) response: Quote:
All look correct. Thanks! What exactly was this discussion about?? | | | It all seems so stupid, it makes me want to give up!
But why should I give up, when it all seems so stupid?
Registrant since 05/22/2003 |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | Nice spot Silence... I never noticed that in the thread before... that completely settles it for me! | | | | Pete |
|   | T!M | | Profiling since Dec. 2000 |
| Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 8,736 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Silence_of_Lambs: Quote:
Quoting northbloke:
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Just a reminder that this thread still exists, and was signed off by Ken when it was created.
I especially liked this part (bold by me):
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The parent profile is a digipak with slip cover ticked, the child profiles are digipak. Do not tick the slip cover checkbox on the child profiles.
Ken's (the ultimate ruler) response:
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All look correct. Thanks!
What exactly was this discussion about?? Thanks for digging up the appropriate quote I was looking for.  |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Kathy: Quote:
Hal,
When I go to the rules regarding the issue of Case Types I am directed to: http://invelos.com/Forums.aspx?task=viewtopic&topicID=373552.
I thought that, because the rules specifically send me there, that Ken considers that a part of the rules. Am I wrong to believe that is so?
As far as your comment "hate to rain on your parade..." I don't understand what you mean. The link from the Rules goes to a different thread than the one that Northbloke posted earlier in this thread. Admittedly, I have not read all of the posts in the thread which is linked to from the Rules, however, I did not see anything about how to define the child profile case types in the original post, which is the one that I am presuming that Ken is referring us to in order to determine the case type. If there is an entry in that thread specifically defining whether to tick "Slip Cover" for the children, I'd appreciate you pointing me to it. And just ignore the "rain on your parade" comment. I was trying to nicely say that I disagreed with you that this was covered in the Rules. | | | | Hal |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 3,197 |
| | Posted: | | | | I'm not sure about this, other than it's connected to the cover scans... What cover are we supposed to scan for the child profiles, the digipak or the slip cover? I would use the same case type as the cover scan implies, anything else would be illogical. Why have a picture of something else if it's not the actual case? | | | | First registered: February 15, 2002 |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 6,635 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting KinoNiki: Quote:
I'm not sure about this, other than it's connected to the cover scans... What cover are we supposed to scan for the child profiles, the digipak or the slip cover? I would use the same case type as the cover scan implies, anything else would be illogical. Why have a picture of something else if it's not the actual case? I agree. Since we use the cover image from the "Slip Cover" for the child profiles, it seems appropriate that we would tick the "Slip Cover" checkbox for the child profile as well. I've reviewed the entire thread which is linked to the Rules for Case Types, and nowhere does it define whether to use "Slip Cover" for the child profiles when the parent profile has "Slip Cover" ticked. | | | | Hal |
| | Registered: May 29, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,475 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting hal9g: Quote:
Quoting Kathy:
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Hal,
When I go to the rules regarding the issue of Case Types I am directed to: http://invelos.com/Forums.aspx?task=viewtopic&topicID=373552.
I thought that, because the rules specifically send me there, that Ken considers that a part of the rules.
The link from the Rules goes to a different thread than the one that Northbloke posted earlier in this thread.
Quoting northbloke: Quote:
Just a reminder that this thread still exists, and was signed off by Ken when it was created. Since the tread above from northbloke (thank you!) contains a definitive answer from Ken, would it be possible to add this link to the rules? |
| | Registered: January 1, 2009 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,087 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting northbloke: Quote:
Quoting VirusPil:
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If I did understand the question correct, all 3 movies are in one Digipack. These Digipack is in a Slip Cover. Why should I remove the Slip Cover on the Child profiles? Can't see the sense in this. 
If there were 3 Keep Cases in a Slip Cover* it would look different, because the child have their own casing.
Edit: *changed Slip Case to Slip Cover.
The way I look at it, and I think the way Ken looks at it as well is that the parent profile as a whole is a digipak with a slip cover over it, but on the disc level (the child profile) each disc doesn't have it's own slip cover, they're simply stored in a digipak.
By ticking the slip cover box on the child profiles you're suggesting that there are 3 slip covers each over an individual disc before a final 4th slip cover is put over the full digipak.
Does that make sense? I would agree if the slip cover would include 3 digipaks, but until it is just one digipak that contains three disc, it is different. The housing of this three disc is still one digipak with one slip cover. | | | | Last edited: by VirusPil |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Posts: 21,610 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting VirusPil: Quote:
Quoting northbloke:
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Quoting VirusPil:
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If I did understand the question correct, all 3 movies are in one Digipack. These Digipack is in a Slip Cover. Why should I remove the Slip Cover on the Child profiles? Can't see the sense in this.
If there were 3 Keep Cases in a Slip Cover* it would look different, because the child have their own casing.
Edit: *changed Slip Case to Slip Cover.
The way I look at it, and I think the way Ken looks at it as well is that the parent profile as a whole is a digipak with a slip cover over it, but on the disc level (the child profile) each disc doesn't have it's own slip cover, they're simply stored in a digipak.
By ticking the slip cover box on the child profiles you're suggesting that there are 3 slip covers each over an individual disc before a final 4th slip cover is put over the full digipak.
Does that make sense?
I would agree if the slip cover would include 3 digipaks, but until it is just one digipak that contains three disc, it is different.
The housing of this three disc is still one digipak with one slip cover. I understand that Virus, but the logic of it completely escapes me. It would still be a Slip Case not a Slip Cover due to content. I see two different definition for the same thing depending ...that's not logical or rational. I would really like to understand what sort of logic Ken was applying. As I see it, it's a huge conditional, if it is this way then this is the case, it is another then this is case....but the physical nature of the case is the SAME. | | | ASSUME NOTHING!!!!!!
CBE, MBE, MoA and proud of it.
Outta here
Billy Video | | | | Last edited: by Winston Smith |
| | Registered: January 1, 2009 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 3,087 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting northbloke: Quote:
Just a reminder that this thread still exists, and was signed off by Ken when it was created. Hmm, first time the pics are shown. Nice. Ok, if Ken has signed this is Ok. (First example of first post, is what questioned in op) Still doesn't sound logical for me, but now I understand why I have those scans in some of my profiles.  So a question from me: If I don't tick the Slip Cover, my scans have to be also from the included digipak?  Edit: Changed my vote to match the example Ken has rubberstamped. | | | | Last edited: by VirusPil |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting Kathy: Quote:
Quoting hal9g:
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Quoting Kathy:
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Hal,
When I go to the rules regarding the issue of Case Types I am directed to: http://invelos.com/Forums.aspx?task=viewtopic&topicID=373552.
I thought that, because the rules specifically send me there, that Ken considers that a part of the rules.
The link from the Rules goes to a different thread than the one that Northbloke posted earlier in this thread.
Quoting northbloke:
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Just a reminder that this thread still exists, and was signed off by Ken when it was created.
Since the tread above from northbloke (thank you!) contains a definitive answer from Ken, would it be possible to add this link to the rules? Agree... and this is far... FAR from the only time we take posts from Ken as part of or over the rules. | | | | Pete |
| | Registered: March 13, 2007 | | Reputation: | | Posts: 17,334 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting VirusPil: Quote:
Quoting northbloke:
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Just a reminder that this thread still exists, and was signed off by Ken when it was created.
Hmm, first time the pics are shown. Nice.
Ok, if Ken has signed this is Ok. (First example of first post, is what questioned in op)
Still doesn't sound logical for me, but now I understand why I have those scans in some of my profiles.
So a question from me: If I don't tick the Slip Cover, my scans have to be also from the included digipak? Nope... the rules say you use the parent profile scan. I don't know where this idea that if slip cover not checked means you can't use the slip cover scan came from... I seen nothing from invelos... and never seen it in the forums before. | | | | Pete |
| | Registered: March 15, 2007 | | Reputation: |  Posts: 5,459 |
| | Posted: | | | | Quoting VirusPil: Quote:
So a question from me: If I don't tick the Slip Cover, my scans have to be also from the included digipak? No. I see nothing in the rules that say the cover type chosen and the source of the cover scans have to be the same thing. As per the rules, the children get the cover scan of the parent unless they have their own covers. |
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